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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 28 August 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 September 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. Without further ado, I will bring in Sarah O’Donnell and then Stuart Stevens.

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 September 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you—that was very helpful.

I will now open up the discussion by bringing in Katy Clark.

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 September 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. I will now open up the meeting to questions from members.

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 September 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you very much. If no more members want to come in, I will finish off with a question about partnerships and collaboration, which we have touched on during this session. I know that the SFRS has been working for many years in collaboration with partners, particularly on engagement with vulnerable individuals, home safety and so on. I am very interested in the proposals around expanding that into working with the national health service and the Scottish Ambulance Service. I am interested to hear a bit more about what that might look like down the line, and also about partnerships where you would prefer there to be some clear water, such as with Police Scotland.

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 September 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. Stuart, you touched on advances in technology. I suppose that good information technology networks sit at the heart of any public body that is functioning well. Will you provide a bit more detail on that aspect of the review work?

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 September 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I am happy for you to ask about that.

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 September 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Of course.

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 September 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you very much. There was a lot in there that, I know, members will be interested in coming back to.

I will move swiftly on and bring in David Crawford to answer the same question.

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 September 2024

Audrey Nicoll

Before I open up to questions from other members, I will stay on the issue of recruitment, and park the budgetary issues for a moment. You have spoken about the difficulties of recruitment, and I suppose that we all recognise the challenges with recruiting in rural areas, for example. However, you have described a service that is evolving and that we could argue is multidimensional nowadays and so is perhaps more attractive to people and more varied than it was even 10 years ago. What factors are creating obstacles to recruitment? What is preventing the recruitment process from working?

Criminal Justice Committee

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 September 2024

Audrey Nicoll

I want to move things on. We are almost half an hour in, and a number of members still want to come in. If there is time, we will come back to that. Ben Macpherson has a supplementary question.