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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 April 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Cybercrime

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Audrey Nicoll

We have carried out our crime prevention duty for the day. [Laughter.]

I will stay with David Keenan, and I might bring in Chris Ulliott. I made a point earlier about the emotional impact, particularly on your workforce, David, of the entire disruption, and not just on the service that you offer through your business. Was there a feeling across your staff body of being targeted, or of being a little bit vulnerable?

I am very interested in how being attacked in such a hard way impacted your workforce. It is something that we perhaps overlook—we talk about our older population and protecting young people but I am interested in how such attacks impact people who work in an organisation, including, for that matter, Marks and Spencer.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Cybercrime

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Audrey Nicoll

That is really helpful scene setting. We have two representatives with us who have been at the sharp end of cybercrime: Mr Keenan and Chris Ulliott. Before I open up to members’ questions, I will bring both of them in. I am not necessarily asking you to talk about the detail of what happened, but I am interested in the impact on your respective organisations of being targeted.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Cybercrime

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Liam Kerr has a follow-up question to one of Ben Macpherson’s questions.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Cybercrime

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Audrey Nicoll

That is fascinating. Thank you.

11:00  

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Cybercrime

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Does Miles Bonfield want to come in on that?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Cybercrime

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Rona Mackay, do you want to come in?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Cybercrime

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you for that. There was a lot in there.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Cybercrime

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Would Nicola Taylor like to come in?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Cybercrime

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Nicola, would you like to come in?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Cybercrime

Meeting date: 14 May 2025

Audrey Nicoll

We have a little bit of time in hand, so I will come in with a couple of questions on issues that we have already touched on. I am happy for other members to come in with final questions, too.

11:45  

My question is about European Union co-operation. Coincidentally, last month, the committee heard evidence from academics on criminal justice co-operation with the European Union. We were told that access to the European Union Agency for Cybersecurity would be

“relevant to co-ordinating cybersecurity positions and highlighting new cybersecurity threats that have emerged.”—[Official Report, Criminal Justice Committee, 30 April 2025; c 7.]

Is the loss of access to Europol or the European Union Agency for Cybersecurity and to their databases impacting on or hampering our effectiveness in the UK in tackling cybercrime? Given that we are in the middle of the trade and co-operation agreement review, should anything be raised or discussed to address gaps in criminal justice co-operation, particularly in the cybercrime space that we have been discussing?