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Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 11 June 2025
Audrey Nicoll
As no other members wish to come in, I invite the cabinet secretary to speak.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 11 June 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Our next group is entitled “Part 2 reviews: link to domestic abuse”. Amendment 14, in the name of the cabinet secretary, is grouped with amendments 15, 17 and 18. I call the cabinet secretary to move amendment 14 and speak to all the amendments in the group.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 11 June 2025
Audrey Nicoll
The next group is entitled, “Part 2 reviews: notification to next of kin”. Amendment 77, in the name of Sharon Dowey, is grouped with amendment 92.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 11 June 2025
Audrey Nicoll
I call Pauline McNeill to wind up, and to indicate whether she wishes to press or withdraw amendment 34.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 11 June 2025
Audrey Nicoll
I refer back to some of the cabinet secretary’s comments with regard to circumstances in which a court can find itself, given the huge range of types of productions that can be relevant to a case. I acknowledge that some productions can be perishable. One example is contaminated clothing, and I think that marijuana was an example that the cabinet secretary gave.
In addition, we should consider that trauma can be caused where, for example, a mobile phone that has significant evidence on it is required to be retained as a production. That in itself can be quite traumatising for a victim, in particular. Huge and significantly bulky items such as a car or a sofa, or anything like that, can also be required as evidence.
I just want to flag up those points to Pauline McNeill.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 11 June 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Before I open up to members for questions, I will kick things off. As you stressed, cabinet secretary, the SSI seeks to alter the timescales around eligibility for HDC. Can I confirm that that does not mean that eligible people will necessarily be in the process for HDC, and that nothing in that regard will change by virtue of the timescales being altered?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 11 June 2025
Audrey Nicoll
There will be a division.
For
Nicoll, Audrey (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP)
Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP)
Macpherson, Ben (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP)
Mackay, Rona (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP)
McNeill, Pauline (Glasgow) (Lab)
Clark, Katy (West Scotland) (Lab)
Against
Kerr, Liam (North East Scotland) (Con)
Sharon Dowey (South Scotland) (Con)
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 11 June 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Our next agenda item is stage 2 consideration of the Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill. I ask members to refer to their copies of the bill and to the marshalled list of amendments and the groupings.
Yesterday, a supplement to the marshalled list was issued. It contained an additional amendment, amendment 93, which was lodged as a manuscript amendment under rule 9.10.6 of standing orders. I decided that amendment 93 may be moved during the stage 2 proceedings. It will be debated in the group entitled “Use of digital productions” and will be called immediately after amendment 46 and before amendment 47.
I welcome to the meeting Angela Constance, Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs, and her officials. I also welcome other members of the Parliament, who will speak to their amendments later on.
I will stop at an appropriate point in proceedings to allow for a short comfort break. I do not want to curtail debate on what is an important bill, but I ask members and the cabinet secretary to be as succinct as possible while making their points clear.
Section 1—Electronic signatures and alternative methods of sending documents
09:30Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 11 June 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Amendment 56, in the name of Sharon Dowey, is grouped with amendment 57.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 11 June 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Group 3 is on virtual attendance: requirements for attending virtually. Amendment 34, in the name of Pauline McNeill, is grouped with amendments 41 to 43.