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Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 3 September 2025
Audrey Nicoll
I bring this evidence-taking session to a close. I thank the witnesses for attending. We have picked up a lot of very helpful details.
Next week, we will continue to take evidence as part of the inquiry and we will focus on prevention and enforcement.
12:31 Meeting continued in private until 13:00.Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 3 September 2025
Audrey Nicoll
We move on to our second panel of the morning. I am pleased to welcome Dr Craig Sayers, clinical lead for prison healthcare at NHS Forth Valley and for the national prison care network; Dr Lesley Graham, a retired public health doctor and founding member of Scottish Health Action on Alcohol Problems; and Dr Catriona Connell from the University of Stirling. Welcome to you all, and thank you very much for your attendance. Thank you also to those witnesses who have provided written submissions.
We are looking to spend around 80 minutes on this evidence session. I will get things going with my usual opening question. I will perhaps come to Dr Sayers first, and I will then move across to Dr Graham and Dr Connell.
We have heard a lot of evidence throughout this inquiry, and we are keenly aware that the primary focus of our evidence has been on the use of drugs in prisons. It has been less to do with the use of alcohol or some other complex issues around co-dependency, the use of alcohol and its impact, particularly in the justice system. Could you perhaps set the scene by setting out whether illicit alcohol in prisons is indeed an issue in Scotland? Is there adequate and consistent screening, and is there early identification of alcohol use disorders at admission? What support and service provision is available in prisons and, more broadly, in the community?
That is quite a big question. I will bring in Dr Sayers first to kick things off.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Audrey Nicoll
I will have to bring the session to a close. I thank Pam Gosal and colleagues for coming along today. We will have a short suspension to change over witnesses.
10:38 Meeting suspended.
10:44 On resuming—
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Audrey Nicoll
I will have to bring the session to a close. I thank Pam Gosal and colleagues for coming along today. We will have a short suspension to change over witnesses.
10:38 Meeting suspended.Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Audrey Nicoll
I have a final question before I bring in Liam Kerr. You said that you anticipate that an additional 3,000 domestic abuse offenders would be included in the MAPPA process. Have you taken account of the possibility that some of the individuals might, bearing in mind the existing MAPPA criteria, already be in the process by virtue of their other offending?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Liam Kerr has a question, following which I will bring in Rachael Hamilton.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Our next agenda item invites us to consider three letters from the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs that relate to fatal accident inquiries and deaths in custody. I refer members to paper 4.
One letter is addressed to the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, which the Criminal Justice Committee is copied into for information, about the announcement of a chair who will lead an independent review of the fatal accident inquiry system when dealing with deaths in custody.?The other two letters, which are addressed directly to the Criminal Justice Committee, relate to wider reforms around deaths in custody.
I invite members to make any comments on the letters.
As there are no comments, are members happy to note the letters’ contents, which have been published online?
Members indicated agreement.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Audrey Nicoll
This is our last meeting before the summer recess, so, before I close the public session, I wish everyone an enjoyable and relaxing summer break. We move into private session.
12:02 Meeting continued in private until 12:48.Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Audrey Nicoll
I will bring in Pauline McNeill, who I think wanted to come in earlier.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 25 June 2025
Audrey Nicoll
We have only four or five minutes left, and a couple of other members want to ask questions, so perhaps you could follow up on that in writing.