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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 March 2026
Audrey Nicoll
Before I ask my follow-up question, I am sure that members noted my deliberate mistake—I omitted to bring in Deborah O’Brien Demick to make an opening statement.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 March 2026
Audrey Nicoll
I come back to the “Best Value in policing” joint report that you and Audit Scotland published. In the submission that you sent the committee in advance of today’s session, you said that,
“Overall, the audit finds policing is on a positive trajectory but must accelerate transformation, address workforce planning and demonstrate continuous improvement across all services.”
You raised a concern about
“the medium term financial plan, which needs updated”,
and you pointed out that
“The inability of policing to maintain reserves or carry money between years causes problems, particularly in relation to expenditure in relation to large capital projects.”
It is safe to say that that has come up fairly regularly over the past few months—while we have been scrutinising the budget, in particular. I am interested to hear a bit more on that particular issue around financial planning and, importantly, what your recommendations are with regard to how that can be addressed. Obviously, we are aware that the Scottish Government is having some dialogue with the UK Government on the issue of borrowing and carrying reserves.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 March 2026
Audrey Nicoll
We will have questions from Jamie Hepburn and Rona Mackay. I ask for fairly succinct responses because we are just a wee bit over time.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 March 2026
Audrey Nicoll
I am happy to welcome our next panel of witnesses: Dr Brian Plastow, the Scottish Biometrics Commissioner, and Karen McBride, who is a subject matter expert at the Scottish Biometrics Commission.
I refer members to paper 1. I intend to allow about 40 minutes for the session, and I invite Brian Plastow to make some opening remarks.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 March 2026
Audrey Nicoll
I would like to pick up on a point that you raised in your opening statement, with regard to extending your remit to the wider justice system. That seems to make sense, given the use of biometric data by bodies beyond Police Scotland. In your submission, you set out that the rationale for including prisons is that, under domestic legislation that is devolved to the Scottish Parliament, biometric data are required from prisoners, including those on remand, without their consent. You set out an interesting proposal about the positive use of biometric data in supporting things such as easing the prison population. Can you say a wee bit more about that?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 March 2026
Audrey Nicoll
Will you include that idea in your outcomes report, which you said that you will lay in Parliament later this year?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 March 2026
Audrey Nicoll
Thank you. I open up the discussion to questions from colleagues.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 March 2026
Audrey Nicoll
I apologise for cutting things short. I never like to do that, but we are up against the clock.
Thank you very much. That was a really interesting session, albeit that it was slightly curtailed.
We will have a short suspension to allow our witnesses to leave.
12:51
Meeting suspended.
12:52
On resuming—
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 March 2026
Audrey Nicoll
In your submission, you refer to Police Scotland’s work on the roll-out of live facial recognition technology. You say that, according to the chair of the Scottish Police Authority’s policing performance committee,
“Scotland may be 18 to 24 months away from a business case on Live Facial Recognition being presented … to the Authority.”
I am interested in your view on that. What will your role be in the on-going work to develop the capability of live facial recognition technology?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 11 March 2026
Audrey Nicoll
Our next item of business is consideration of three public petitions that are currently live and that were referred to our committee during this session of Parliament. I am grateful to all the petitioners who sent additional information to us. I refer members to paper 2.
We need to decide whether to close the petitions or keep them open for our successor committee in the next session. My view is that there are reasons to keep all three petitions open because they involve on-going issues that have not yet reached a conclusion. I do not feel that it would be right to close them yet.
I seek members’ views. Are members content to keep the petitions open? Jamie Hepburn, you are looking—