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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 August 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Audrey Nicoll

There will be a division.

For

Dowey, Sharon (South Scotland) (Con)
Kerr, Liam (North East Scotland) (Con)
MacGregor, Fulton (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP)
Mackay, Rona (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP)
Macpherson, Ben (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP)
Nicoll, Audrey (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP))

Abstentions

Clark, Katy (West Scotland) (Lab)
McNeill, Pauline (Glasgow) (Lab)

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I call Russell Findlay to wind up and to press or withdraw amendment 78.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Audrey Nicoll

That takes us to the next group. Given that it is spot on 11 o’clock, I propose that we have a short suspension of around 10 minutes to allow for a comfort break.

11:00 Meeting suspended.  

11:10 On resuming—  

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 12 March 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I will draw proceedings to a close, but I want to say a couple of things before I do so. I am conscious that group 10, which we had hoped to get to today, contains several very important amendments of great interest to victims. Maggie Chapman and Pam Gosal were here to speak to the amendments, but I do not want to curtail our ability to have a good debate on those important issues.

As this has already been quite a long meeting, I propose to finish at this point this morning. We will begin next week’s meeting with the group on non-harassment orders, and Pam Gosal and Maggie Chapman will join us then. I hope that members are content with that proposal.

We will pause stage 2 proceedings at this point and resume consideration of amendments at our next meeting on Wednesday, 19 March. I thank the cabinet secretary, the minister and their officials for attending this morning.

Meeting closed at 13:21.  

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Audrey Nicoll

It is helpful to confirm that point.

I am aware of the time and will finish up with a couple of questions. The first is about part 3 of the bill, which deals with special measures. I know that we touched on those earlier. My second question relates to a separate but interconnected issue that was raised during the stage 1 evidence and on which I would welcome the cabinet secretary’s response, which is the pilot of free court transcripts.

First, I come back to the special measures in civil cases. Will you give us a broad commentary on the thinking behind the proposed amendments to those provisions?

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Audrey Nicoll

We need to change officials, so just bear with me.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Audrey Nicoll

That is no problem.

As there are no more questions on part 4, we will have a short suspension to allow for a changeover of officials.

10:55 Meeting suspended.  

10:57 On resuming—  

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Audrey Nicoll

A very good morning, and welcome to the seventh meeting in 2025 of the Criminal Justice Committee. We have received no apologies.

Our first item of business is evidence from the Scottish Government on its plans to amend the Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill before we begin consideration of amendments to the bill at stage 2 on 12 March.

I am pleased that we are joined this morning by Angela Constance, the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs, and Scottish Government officials, including Heather Reece Wells and Lisa McCloy from the criminal justice reform unit and Nicola Guild from the legal directorate. Welcome to you all. Throughout the morning, as our discussion moves between different parts of the bill, the officials supporting the cabinet secretary will change, so we might need to have a couple of brief suspensions to allow that to happen. Thank you all for taking the time to attend the meeting.

I refer members to papers 1 and 2. I intend to allow about 90 minutes for the session. I will structure questioning by focusing on part 4 of the bill first, then parts 5 and 6 and, finally, parts 1 to 3. I invite the cabinet secretary to make some opening remarks.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. I will bring in Rona Mackay before we move on.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Audrey Nicoll

As there are no more questions on parts 4, 5 and 6, we will move on to parts 1 to 3.

I am aware of the time. Cabinet secretary, can you confirm that you can stay on for a little bit longer to answer questions on parts 1 to 3?