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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 12 February 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. That segues nicely into hearing from Detective Chief Superintendent Higgins. Obviously, in your role, you will be coming at the matter from the perspective of preventing substances from getting into prisons. We are aware of the joint work between Police Scotland and the Scottish Prison Service, which has been referred to throughout the inquiry.

Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. That brings us nicely on to Dr Marland and the crucial role of the Leverhulme centre in identifying what is in circulation, what is entering prisons and the impact of those substances. I am interested in hearing a bit more about the centre’s role in that.

Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

I will pick up on that. Are we saying that we need to look at a legislative option because, at the moment, as legislative provision stands, there are limits to what can be done to counteract the impact of drones? Would it be fair to say that we need to do that in as timely a manner as possible?

Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thanks for that.

Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

That is really good to hear. Jim, do you have anything to add?

Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

A lot of the work that Police Scotland does from a preventative angle sees engagement with the likes of alcohol and drug partnerships and other organisations, particularly in the third sector. Can you expand on how important those relationships are in local areas with services that are all working towards the same goal, which is to ensure that there is a preventative approach and, at the same time, rehabilitation?

12:00  

Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 10 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

That is good to hear. Talking about joint work—this is my final question—I was interested to read the Leverhulme centre’s submission about the important work that you are doing and, in particular, the data that you have been able to provide that supported the development of multiple national and international policy changes. That is great for the centre and it is good to hear that Scotland is leading the way on that. Bearing in mind the longer-term aspiration of the centre to develop and establish a national drug testing centre, how important is that work? Bearing in mind also what we have been discussing today, how important is it that that provision comes to fruition?

Criminal Justice Committee (Draft)

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 3 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

We move on to our second panel of the morning. I am pleased to welcome Dr Craig Sayers, clinical lead for prison healthcare at NHS Forth Valley and for the national prison care network; Dr Lesley Graham, a retired public health doctor and founding member of Scottish Health Action on Alcohol Problems; and Dr Catriona Connell from the University of Stirling. Welcome to you all, and thank you very much for your attendance. Thank you also to those witnesses who have provided written submissions.

We are looking to spend around 80 minutes on this evidence session. I will get things going with my usual opening question. I will perhaps come to Dr Sayers first, and I will then move across to Dr Graham and Dr Connell.

We have heard a lot of evidence throughout this inquiry, and we are keenly aware that the primary focus of our evidence has been on the use of drugs in prisons. It has been less to do with the use of alcohol or some other complex issues around co-dependency, the use of alcohol and its impact, particularly in the justice system. Could you perhaps set the scene by setting out whether illicit alcohol in prisons is indeed an issue in Scotland? Is there adequate and consistent screening, and is there early identification of alcohol use disorders at admission? What support and service provision is available in prisons and, more broadly, in the community?

That is quite a big question. I will bring in Dr Sayers first to kick things off.

11:15  

Criminal Justice Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 3 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Good morning, and welcome to the 21st meeting in 2025 of the Criminal Justice Committee. I very much hope that everybody has had a good summer. We have received no apologies.

Our first item of business is a decision on whether to take in private item 3, which is a review of the evidence that we will hear today. Do we agree to take that item in private?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Substance Misuse in Prisons

Meeting date: 3 September 2025

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you for that. I will bring in Haydn Pasi on the original question about the context of supply and demand. What are the drivers from your perspective?