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Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Before I bring in Fulton MacGregor, I want to come back to the question on the budget that I indicated earlier that I intended to ask.
In your submission you shared information on the impact of the service being unable to carry financial reserves, working with an annualised budget process—the committee has covered that a fair bit—and not being able to exercise borrowing powers without ministerial approval. Have you had an opportunity to discuss those issues with the Scottish Government? Do you see any possible movement on that, given the considerable financial constraints and pressures that your service is under at the moment?
12:45Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Audrey Nicoll
I have a couple of follow-up questions for Malcolm Graham. One issue raised in your submission, which I found very interesting, was how challenging things have become because your case management system is going out of date. That speaks to the wider digital transformation that you described in your submission. Could you cover that in a bit more detail? It has perhaps not been on the committee’s radar in the past. Nonetheless, it sounds as though a major piece of work will be coming down the track.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Audrey Nicoll
The submission that we received from you was very detailed and helpful. Thank you for that and for your opening remarks.
I turn to Malcolm Graham.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Audrey Nicoll
I am aware that we are running over time. I am keen to get Fulton MacGregor in for a final question, if our witnesses are okay to stay a few moments longer.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Sharon, I can give you a moment, since Jamie stole your question. Are you happy to come in now?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Audrey Nicoll
I will come in with a final question, and then I will ask the same question that I asked previous witnesses about a written follow-up on climate change. First, you might have heard us discuss with previous witnesses the issues around cyber threat, which is mentioned in your submission. The implications for public sector organisations being targeted are obvious. I am interested in hearing a little more on what the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service is doing to mitigate the threat.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Thank you for that. I bring in Fulton MacGregor.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 12 November 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Before we conclude, I will extend the same invitation to you that I extended to the previous witnesses with regard to what your organisation is doing to mitigate and reduce carbon emissions as we are looking to meet our climate change targets across Scotland. It will be more of an organisational response rather than an operational one, but we are keen to hear a bit about what the service is doing in that regard.
I thank you all for your attendance today. The session has been really helpful. That now concludes the public part of our meeting.
12:58 Meeting continued in private until 13:12.Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Audrey Nicoll
If not, I will move on, because we are slightly tight for time and other members want to come in. May I interject and move you on to your next question?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 5 November 2025
Audrey Nicoll
We are coming up to having around 15 minutes left. Two committee members are looking to come in, and one wants to come back in with a follow-up question, so I must ask for succinct questions and responses if possible.