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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 May 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 6 October 2021

Audrey Nicoll

That is really helpful. I will hand over to Rona Mackay, who is interested in how to balance the budget.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 6 October 2021

Audrey Nicoll

Please do not.

Criminal Justice Committee

Legal Aid

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Audrey Nicoll

The next agenda item is a round-table discussion on legal aid and legal aid reform. I refer members to papers 2 and 3. We will take evidence from a round table of witnesses, who will join us virtually due to social distancing rules at Holyrood.

I welcome our witnesses: Gillian Fyfe, strategic lead for strong communities, Citizens Advice Scotland; Tony Lenehen, president of the Faculty of Advocates criminal bar association; Ian Moir, legal aid convener for the Law Society of Scotland; David Fraser, executive director of court operations at the Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service; Colin Lancaster, chief executive of the Scottish Legal Aid Board; Julia McPartlin, president of the Scottish Solicitors Bar Association; Professor Alan Paterson, professor of law at the University of Strathclyde; and Dr Marsha Scott, chief executive of Scottish Women’s Aid. We appreciate the time that they have taken to join us, and I thank the witnesses who have provided written submissions. Those are available online.

I intend to allow an hour and 20 minutes for questions and discussion. I ask members to indicate which witness they are directing their remarks to, then we can open the floor to other witnesses for comments. If other witnesses wish to respond, I ask them to indicate that by typing R in the chat function on BlueJeans and I will bring them in if time permits. If they are merely agreeing with a point that has been made, there is no need to intervene to say so. Other comments that witnesses make in the chat function will not be visible to committee members or recorded anywhere, so if a witness wants to make a comment, they should do so by requesting to speak.

We now move on to questions. I ask members and our invited guests keep their questions and comments as succinct as possible to facilitate a free-flowing discussion. I will structure the discussion around a series of broad themes. The first theme is access to justice and the current experiences of users of the legal aid system, and I will direct some opening questions to Professor Alan Paterson and Mr Ian Moir.

Professor Paterson, you had an advisory role in Martyn Evans’s review, which resulted in the report, “Rethinking Legal Aid—an independent strategic review” in 2018. It brought out some key issues about simplifying the system, creating a fair payments system and making the system more accessible. What priorities do you see in the overall theme of accessing legal aid and how can we improve access to criminal justice legal aid?

Criminal Justice Committee

Legal Aid

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Audrey Nicoll

I will bring in Mr Lancaster for a very quick comment, and then I will move to Mr Findlay for questions on other aspects.

Criminal Justice Committee

Legal Aid

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Audrey Nicoll

I will now bring this evidence session to a close. I again apologise for the lack of time—there is so much to cover. Many thanks to all the witnesses who have joined us today. If there are any outstanding points that you would like to share with the committee, please feel free to follow up with them in writing, and we will of course take them into account as additional evidence.

My thanks again to all our witnesses for attending today.

11:43 Meeting suspended.  

11:49 On resuming—  

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Audrey Nicoll

Mr Greene, I am conscious of the time, and I would like the discussion to remain focused on the SSI. If you have any further questions in that respect, that is fine, but if not, I will move on to Mr MacGregor.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Audrey Nicoll

As members have no further questions, I thank the cabinet secretary and his officials for attending. I will suspend the meeting for a short time before we move on to the next agenda item.

12:19 Meeting suspended.  

12:29 On resuming—  

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Audrey Nicoll

Item 4 is the committee’s consideration of the Prisons and Young Offenders Institutions (Coronavirus) (Scotland) Amendment (No 2) Rules 2021. Do members have any comments on the SSI?

Criminal Justice Committee

Control of Dogs (Scotland) Act 2010: Post-legislative Scrutiny

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Audrey Nicoll

As no further members have indicated that they have comments on the specific content of the letter, we will write to the Public Audit Committee and invite further correspondence from the relevant minister.

That concludes the public part of the meeting. Our next meeting will be on 6 October, when we will begin our budget scrutiny.

12:40 Meeting continued in private until 13:01.  

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 29 September 2021

Audrey Nicoll

I agree with the comments that have been made, so I will not repeat them. Does Mr MacGregor wish to add anything?