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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 5 May 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 6 October 2021

Audrey Nicoll

I thank you all for your attendance. It has been a really useful session. If you have any follow-up information that might be helpful to the committee, that would be welcome, and we will obviously take it into account.

We will have a five-minute break before we move on to our next agenda item.

11:35 Meeting suspended.  

11:43 On resuming—  

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 6 October 2021

Audrey Nicoll

I have a follow-up question. We have been looking at custody provision. As a former officer, I know that there is good custody provision and not-so-good custody provision across the estate in Scotland. Was custody provision looked at specifically as part of the survey? Could you comment on any particular plans from a budget perspective for improving some of the custody provision that needs to be improved?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 6 October 2021

Audrey Nicoll

That would be helpful—thank you.

If there are no more questions on the capital budget side of things, we will move on to look at Covid and the 26th UN climate change conference of the parties—COP26—on which Russell Findlay has some questions.

Criminal Justice Committee

Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill

Meeting date: 6 October 2021

Audrey Nicoll

The next agenda item is consideration of a paper from the clerks on a United Kingdom Parliament bill. I refer members to paper 4. Since we last agreed to publish a short legislative consent report on the Police, Crime, Sentencing and Courts Bill, the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee has published a report and has highlighted a couple of issues, which are outlined in the paper. It is suggested that we update our planned report and publish it now.

We should note that the Scottish Government plans to produce a supplementary legislative consent memorandum in due course. We can consider the issue of extraction of information from digital devices then.

Do members agree that we should update our draft report, as is suggested in paper 4, and that we should ask the clerks to make arrangements for publication?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 6 October 2021

Audrey Nicoll

I ask that you keep your answer as brief as you can, so that I can let other members in before we close the meeting.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 6 October 2021

Audrey Nicoll

I will bring Pauline McNeill in that case.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 6 October 2021

Audrey Nicoll

We have slightly overrun. I would like to bring the session to a close with a question about your digital strategy, which we have not really covered so far. Your five-year capital investment plan includes continued roll-out and work in relation to your digital strategy. There has been some criticism of the call-handling side of the Police Scotland function. What will be the priorities and what will be the budgetary implications of ensuring that the strategy continues as planned?

11:30  

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 6 October 2021

Audrey Nicoll

Mr MacGregor, I was unaware that you wanted to come in.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 6 October 2021

Audrey Nicoll

I am delighted to welcome Mr Colin Lancaster, the chief executive of the Scottish Legal Aid Board. Thank you very much for your written submission, which is available online. I intend to allow about an hour for questions and discussion.

The session will be structured around a number of themes, starting with administrative costs, which Rhona Mackay will pick up.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 6 October 2021

Audrey Nicoll

Unless anyone has any specific questions on administrative costs, I would like to move on to looking at general trends around legal aid and the number of legal aid applications that are being granted.

During a previous session, we have spoken with you about how the trend has been downwards. There are reasons for that, such as the pandemic. I am interested in whether you think that there are other underlying reasons why we are seeing a downward trend. What might that mean in the longer term for legal aid budgeting and for legal aid firms offering legal aid work?