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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 15 August 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Fireworks and Pyrotechnic Articles (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 March 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Good morning, and welcome to the 10th meeting in 2022 of the Criminal Justice Committee. Apologies have been received from Pauline McNeill. Collette Stevenson, Fulton MacGregor and Rona Mackay are joining us remotely. One of our witnesses for panel 1 is slightly delayed.

Our first item of business is our first evidence session on the Fireworks and Pyrotechnic Articles (Scotland) Bill. Before we begin, I place on record our thanks to the Blackburn bonfire night action group for hosting our visit on Monday. It was extremely helpful to hear how the local community has worked to tackle the misuse of fireworks in its area. The group’s views on the proposals in the bill will be very much appreciated.

I refer members to papers 1 to 4 and I am very pleased to welcome our first panel of witnesses. They are Assistant Chief Officer Stuart Stevens, director of service delivery with the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service, and David Hamilton, chair of the Scottish Police Federation. Alasdair Hay of the firework review group is slightly delayed and will be joining us shortly. We very much appreciate the time that witnesses have taken to join us.

We move directly to questions. We have about an hour and 15 minutes. I will open the questioning, coming to Stuart Stevens first and then David Hamilton, and I will start with a general question. Could you outline your experiences and involvement in the issue of fireworks and pyrotechnics in your professional role and say whether you feel that what is proposed in the bill is the right step forward and that the timing is right?

Criminal Justice Committee

Fireworks and Pyrotechnic Articles (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 March 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Before we move on, I will quickly pick up on an issue that we spoke about earlier, related to Jamie Greene’s questions about the impact of the legislation on the fireworks industry. In particular, we spoke about the fact that quite a lot of fireworks are sold by small, local businesses. There has been some commentary around the potential for Government compensation for businesses that might lose out on income. I am interested in whether panel members have any thoughts on the prospect of a compensation scheme. Is that something that you would be interested in seeing?

Criminal Justice Committee

Fireworks and Pyrotechnic Articles (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 March 2022

Audrey Nicoll

I will finish off the evidence session with some questions on pyrotechnics such as the flare-type things that we see at football matches and other events. Do you have any particular comments to make on the provisions around pyrotechnics? We have heard from the Scottish Police Federation about public possession issues, but I want to pose that question to you.

Criminal Justice Committee

Fireworks and Pyrotechnic Articles (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 March 2022

Audrey Nicoll

That brings the evidence session to a close. I thank the witnesses for attending. We have picked up a lot of very helpful evidence. We will have a short break to allow witnesses to leave.

11:34 Meeting suspended.  

11:39 On resuming—  

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 March 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Welcome back, everyone. The next agenda item is consideration of the Prison and Young Offenders Institutions (Coronavirus) (Scotland) Amendment Rules 2022. I refer members to paper 5. The committee has previously taken evidence on the instrument, which is subject to the negative procedure, so I invite any further views that members might have on it.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 March 2022

Audrey Nicoll

While we are online, I invite Rona Mackay and Fulton MacGregor to indicate whether they would like to make any comments.

Katy, do you want to say anything?

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 16 March 2022

Audrey Nicoll

I appreciate members’ comments on the matter. I, too, put on record, on behalf of the committee, that although we agree to make no recommendation on the Scottish statutory instrument, we do not want the powers to remain in place indefinitely and we expect to be kept updated on how they are used and implemented.

That concludes the public part of the meeting. We will now move into private session to review the evidence that we have heard this morning.

11:45 Meeting continued in private until 12:58.  

Criminal Justice Committee

Fireworks and Pyrotechnic Articles (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 March 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Do not worry; we are just glad that you have arrived safely.

I hand over to Russell Findlay.

Criminal Justice Committee

Fireworks and Pyrotechnic Articles (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 March 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you, Stuart. I will perhaps come back to you on a couple of points in relation to the impact on your crews, but I will bring in David Hamilton first.

Criminal Justice Committee

Fireworks and Pyrotechnic Articles (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 16 March 2022

Audrey Nicoll

I have a quick follow-up question for both of you. David, you mentioned that, recently, you have had to go to the extent of having full public order deployments. To what extent has the fireworks season had an impact, from the point of view of not just resources and planning but, ultimately, the cost of responding to fireworks and the issues that arise from the use of fireworks?