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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 November 2025
Audrey Nicoll
That is of real interest, given the challenges that we are trying to grapple with.
The next question is about what I feel has been a significant shift in the types of pressures and priorities that Police Scotland in particular is facing compared with in previous years in which we have undertaken budget scrutiny. For example, the chief constable spoke about having to take account of issues such as civil unrest and protests, as well as counter-terrorism work, which we know is a long-standing responsibility—although I think this is the first time that it has been specifically referenced in a budget submission—and major events, including presidential visits at relatively short notice. There is a really shifting picture of priorities that Police Scotland and other services are dealing with.
Will you set out how you plan to incorporate in your forthcoming budget consideration what feel like quite new and emerging priorities across the justice sector?
11:45Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 November 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Katy Clark wants to come back in.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 November 2025
Audrey Nicoll
We move to questions from Rona Mackay.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 November 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Before we move on to consider the motion, I am conscious of the fact that we find ourselves in a rather unusual position, in that we have had very short notice of the DPLR Committee’s report in which it outlines its views on the technical aspects of the SSI.
I am content, on the basis of the information that was provided in the papers, and from the questions and answers today, that the policy content of the SSI is sound. However, before we proceed to considering the motion, it is appropriate that I ask whether members wish to continue to do that now. Are members content with what we have discussed and heard in the responses from the cabinet secretary? If not, we would have to defer consideration of the motion to a later date.
In any case, it would clearly be appropriate that we include our views on the DPLR Committee’s consideration of the SSI in the report that we prepare following our consideration of the motion.
As I said, I am content to proceed to consider the motion, but I ask members to indicate whether they, too, are content. I ask members who are content to proceed to raise their hand. I see five members who are in favour of proceeding to consider the motion; the other three are opposed to doing so.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 November 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Are members content to delegate responsibility to me and the clerks to approve a short factual report to the Parliament on this affirmative instrument?
Members indicated agreement.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 November 2025
Audrey Nicoll
The report will be published shortly.
13:01 Meeting continued in private until 13:05.Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 November 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Thank you for that.
I have a final question on the point that you made regarding the crime being complete at the point of payment, or evidence of payment or intended payment. That brings to mind the fact that payment can include a transfer between bank accounts or online payment, which are notoriously difficult transactions for police officers to investigate. My question is a practical one: how do you envisage that being enforceable?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 November 2025
Audrey Nicoll
That sets the tone for my next question, which relates to the impact of legislation. The committee has scrutinised a range of legislation, including two quite significant bills: the Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill and the Bail and Release from Custody (Scotland) Bill, which are both now acts. Do you have an update on the impact of those new pieces of legislation, from a budget perspective? Is the Government in a position to implement all the provisions in those acts, or will regard need to be given to costs, and will the roll-out be cost dependent?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 November 2025
Audrey Nicoll
That would be most helpful.
As there are no more questions from members, we will draw the evidence session to a close. Thank you very much for attending, cabinet secretary and officials. We will suspend for a few minutes to allow for a changeover of Government officials.
11:56 Meeting suspended.Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 26 November 2025
Audrey Nicoll
I will have to cut you off, I am afraid, because a number of members want to come in. We have had only two members ask questions so far, and we have a lot to get through, so I have to ask for much shorter responses, Ms Regan.
Are you done, Mr Kerr?