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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 25 August 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Committee members are particularly interested in the issues around the capital budget and the prison estate. I will ask just one follow-up question. Thinking ahead about budget provision into the next year, what are your main concerns about the older section of the prison estate?

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Very quickly, because there are a number of other questions.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Audrey Nicoll

That is noted and on the record. Speaking of information on the record, I should also highlight that the reported cost of the eight-year contract with GEOAmey for prisoner escort services was £238 million.

I thank Wendy Sinclair-Gieben for a very informative evidence-taking session. If members have any other questions that they wish to ask, we can follow them up in writing.

We will have a short suspension to allow the witness to leave.

11:17 Meeting suspended.  

11:26 On resuming—  

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you very much, everyone. Those comments have been helpful, and it is important to get members’ views on the record.

I very much recognise the concerns that members have expressed about what went wrong, and I note that Ruth Charteris says in her letter that she is very committed to supporting

“future public accountability, including the expectation that there will be a form of judge-led inquiry in due course.”

My view is that we should wait for the outcome of that and perhaps find out a little bit more about the timescales for it.

In response to Jamie Greene’s point, it is important that we seek some reassurance about who is paying for all this. I note that the cabinet secretary is coming next week, and we might be able to ask him some questions in and around the issue.

That would be my proposal at the moment. Are we agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Thanks, Collette. I do not think that there is anything wrong with highlighting some of the good work that is going on in communities.

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Okay. Thanks, Jamie. Like you, I certainly got the impression that local management and participation in decision making around processions and parades is where the cabinet secretary is coming from. I mentioned to colleagues earlier that the issue is not as significant in the north-east as it is in other parts of Scotland. However, what has been suggested makes sense to me, so thank you for your comments.

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Thanks, Jamie. Do you want to come in, Rona?

Criminal Justice Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Members are indicating agreement. Fulton?

Criminal Justice Committee

National Care Service (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you, Fulton. As no other member wishes to comment, I confirm that we are happy to have arrangements put in place for a one-off evidence session. I will ask our clerking team to assist with that.

Criminal Justice Committee

Correspondence

Meeting date: 9 November 2022

Audrey Nicoll

That is fine—thank you for that, Rona.

I am happy to propose that we write to the cabinet secretary to raise those matters. In his letter to the committee, he said that he will write to us again

“in due course to update ... on progress in taking this work forward”,

but there would be no harm in our going back in the interim and raising members’ specific points. Is everyone content to do so?

Members indicated agreement.