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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 17 February 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Audrey Nicoll

We are coming up to half past 12. I admire our witnesses’ staying power and patience, and I think that I speak on behalf of members when I say that it has been a really helpful and informative session for the committee. Thank you all very much for attending.

12:29 Meeting continued in private until 12:58.  

Criminal Justice Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I will let Jim Shields and Lorraine Johnstone come in from the secure care perspective.

Criminal Justice Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I am watching the time because I know that Kate Wallace has to leave. Thank you very much for coming. We will have a quick pause to let you leave the committee room.

We will continue our questioning. Rona Mackay has a question.

10:45  

Criminal Justice Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Our next item is consideration of evidence on the Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill. I welcome to the meeting Mrs Linda Allan and Kate Wallace, the chief executive officer at Victim Support Scotland. I refer members to papers 1 and 2. I thank both our witnesses for coming to share their views on the Scottish Government’s proposals. I intend to allow about an hour for this session, and I am aware that Kate Wallace needs to leave no later than 10.45 am, as I understand that she is also giving evidence to the Education, Children and Young People Committee this morning—so she has a busy morning ahead.

We will move to questions. I will open things up by asking Kate Wallace to provide the committee with a broad overview of the work that she is involved in with regard to children and young people.

Criminal Justice Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Would anyone else like to come in before we move on?

Criminal Justice Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Audrey Nicoll

That is nice and succinct.

Criminal Justice Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Before I bring in Rona Mackay, I would like to let members and witnesses know that I can extend the session. We are covering a lot of important ground, and I am keen that as many questions and responses as possible can be heard. On that basis, assuming that our witnesses are able to stay a little bit longer if required, I will extend the session. If need be, we will reschedule our final agenda item to just after Easter recess. I take it that that is acceptable.

Criminal Justice Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I was just going to bring in Wendy Sinclair-Gieben on the previous question.

Criminal Justice Committee

Children (Care and Justice) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you.

I will come to Linda Allan. The committee is aware of the traumatic experience that you have had with the criminal justice system, Linda. Are you able to articulate that experience to committee members and say how it has brought you to the work that you are undertaking now?

Criminal Justice Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 29 March 2023

Audrey Nicoll

A very good morning, and welcome to the 10th meeting of the Criminal Justice Committee in 2023. There are no apologies this morning.

Our first item of business is a decision on whether to take items 3 and 4 on today’s agenda in private. Do members agree to take those items in private?

Members indicated agreement.