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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 November 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Online Safety Bill

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Our next item of business is consideration of a supplementary legislative consent memorandum on the Online Safety Bill. I am very pleased to welcome to the meeting the Minister for Social Care, Mental Wellbeing and Sport, Maree Todd, and her Scottish Government officials. Hilary Third is head of self-harm policy and distress interventions—mental health; and Katy Richards is a solicitor in the legal directorate.

I refer members to paper 2.

I invite the minister to make some opening remarks on the supplementary LCM, after which we will move to questions.

Criminal Justice Committee

Northern Ireland Troubles (Legacy and Reconciliation) Bill

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Do any other members want to come in?

Criminal Justice Committee

Online Safety Bill

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

The issue now moves to the chamber for all members to decide on, based on our report.

I thank the minister and her officials for joining us this morning. We will have a short pause to allow the minister to leave.

Criminal Justice Committee

Northern Ireland Troubles (Legacy and Reconciliation) Bill

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Thanks very much for raising that issue. When we were scrutinising the original LCM, there was quite a lot of good communication at that time. I would not like to say how that has continued as regards what we are considering today and in relation to amendments, but there was some pretty robust communication previously.

Criminal Justice Committee

Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency Bill

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Our next item of business is consideration of a supplementary legislative consent memorandum on the Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency Bill. I am pleased to welcome the Minister for Community Wealth and Public Finance, Tom Arthur, and his officials: Sian Ledger, land reform policy and legislation team leader; George Dickson, detect and disrupt team leader; Michael Paparakis, civil law policy manager; and Patrick Down, criminal law practice and licensing unit team leader, all from the Scottish Government.

I refer members to paper 5.

I invite the minister to make his opening remarks on the supplementary LCM, after which we will move to questions.

Criminal Justice Committee

Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency Bill

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

We have a lot on the agenda today.

Criminal Justice Committee

Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency Bill

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

No worries at all. We are getting near summer recess—that is fine.

Is the committee in agreement that the Scottish Parliament should give its consent to the relevant provisions in the Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency Bill, as set out in the Scottish Government’s draft motion?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Online Safety Bill

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Thanks. As you know, the committee has been looking at the broader issue of online child sexual exploitation and the escalating incidence of it. Our discussions have obviously incorporated the bill and its progress. We hope that we will remain sighted on the Government’s position on the bill, in particular, because the committee is very interested in that issue.

Criminal Justice Committee

Economic Crime and Corporate Transparency Bill

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Where there is on-going dialogue between the two Governments in relation to how legislation is being developed in bills, it is not clear to me that the Scottish Parliament is aware of what those discussions might involve. It might be helpful for us to have some understanding of that process and the issues that are being raised.

Would our clerk like to add anything to that, or does that pretty much cover the position?

Criminal Justice Committee

Online Safety Bill

Meeting date: 21 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you very much, minister. That was a very helpful overview.

We will now move to questions. I will ask the first one. Do we understand what the scale of the problem is at the moment in the UK, but also with reference to Scotland? I imagine that it is quite difficult to measure it, although we know that it is escalating. Are there any indicators of the scale of the problem?

Secondly, will you say a wee bit about the challenges that we might face in applying the new legislation?

I appreciate that those are quite big questions, but I would be interested to know the answers to them, given the online sphere that we are looking at.