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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 11 February 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Audrey Nicoll

I will move things on as we have covered that point. I will bring in Pauline McNeill, to be followed by Rona Mackay. We remain on part 1 of the bill.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Audrey Nicoll

Yes, if you do not mind. I will bring you back in when you want to come back with that question.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Audrey Nicoll

If no members want to discuss part 2—I am not getting any indications—we will move on to part 3, which relates to data collection and reporting. You have alluded to that in your opening statement, Ms Gosal, and in your responses to questions.

I have a question about collecting data. In particular, can you clarify the purpose of collecting the data specified in the bill? Is it to improve services for victims, or is it about understanding the dynamics of domestic abuse more widely?

Could you also clarify something in section 24, which is that the phrase

“victims under the age of 16”

refers to children who are experiencing domestic abuse from a partner or ex-partner and to children who are victims of domestic abuse involving their parents? I would be interested to get a little bit more context on the proposition on data that you have made in the bill.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Audrey Nicoll

I want to stay with part 1, which you have just mentioned, and refer back to the evidence that we received on 10 December from Detective Superintendent Adam Brown of Police Scotland. He said that Police Scotland was not supportive of part 1 of the bill for a number of reasons, one of which was that the statutory management of part 1 might

“draw our focus ... away from some of the other processes”

that are already embedded in Police Scotland’s response to domestic abuse. I noted that, in your opening statement, you said that you challenged that assertion. Secondly, Detective Superintendent Brown said:

“A key difference between”

existing

“processes and the proposals in part 1 is that those other processes do not require a criminal conviction for interventions to take place.”

I certainly acknowledge that point as very important. Obviously, in any response, convictions are taken into account but, as Detective Superintendent Brown told us, they may not necessarily reflect

“the totality of risk that a perpetrator poses.”—[Official Report, Criminal Justice Committee, 10 December 2025; c 4, 5.]

Have you had time to reflect on Police Scotland’s comments and how you might amend part 1 of the bill to take account of its views? From a personal perspective, I think that they are important in this context and worth further consideration.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Audrey Nicoll

If I can press you on that point, I am interested in what rationale you think there is whereby introducing legislation would make a tangible difference to local authorities’ ability to improve and expand existing rehabilitation services.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Audrey Nicoll

I think that Jamie Hepburn wants to come in with a question on part 3, after which we will open up the discussion to any other members before we move on to part 4.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Audrey Nicoll

Yes, I will bring you in at the end. At the moment, I am keen for us to focus on part 1 of the bill, but I will certainly bring you back in. Is that you finished, Ms Dowey?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Audrey Nicoll

In that case, I will bring in Fulton MacGregor and then Jamie Hepburn. I remind members that we are still on part 1.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Audrey Nicoll

We will have to move on, so thank you for that. I will bring in Liam Kerr, followed by Sharon Dowey.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Prevention of Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 7 January 2026

Audrey Nicoll

I will draw a line under that line of questioning, because we are well over time and there is still one final question to be asked, which is on the financial memorandum.