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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 2 September 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I will pick up and clarify the point about the options for the committee today. We are aware that the Scottish Police Federation has made a number of recommendations for amending the SSI and, as the cabinet secretary has pointed out, it is not possible for a committee to do that, in so far as SSIs come to committee as they are and we either agree them or do not. The only option available to members if they wish to see changes is to vote against the motion or to ask whether there is scope for the SSI to be withdrawn and brought back in a revised version. From what the cabinet secretary has said, she is not minded to do that. I hope that that provides some clarity.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I will try to pull the discussion together. I appreciate the points that members have made and the cabinet secretary’s responses to them.

It is important to clarify that the federation seems to seek that the wording of the constitution be amended. We have heard—I refer specifically to the update from Louise Miller—that, down the line, the constitution can be amended, which would be a separate process from agreeing the SSI in its current form today.

Is that correct, cabinet secretary?

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Thanks very much, cabinet secretary. I hope that that has been helpful and provided some clarity for members.

On that note, I will move on and invite the cabinet secretary to move motion S6M-08783.

Motion moved,

That the Criminal Justice Committee recommends that the Police Negotiating Board for Scotland (Constitution, Arbitration and Qualifying Cases) Regulations 2023 [draft] be approved.—[Angela Constance]

Motion agreed to.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I thank the cabinet secretary and her officials for joining us.

That concludes our business for the morning. There is no formal committee meeting next week, as planned.

Meeting closed at 10:44.  

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you very much, cabinet secretary. In a paper that the Scottish Police Federation submitted to the committee ahead of today’s meeting, it outlined its position and made a number of comments on the proposed constitution of the Police Negotiating Board for Scotland in the Scottish statutory instrument. Have you had the opportunity to see that paper and, if so, do you have any comments on the points that the Scottish Police Federation set out?

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 7 June 2023

Audrey Nicoll

On that note, the SPF made a number of comments, and my understanding is that there is no scope to incorporate them in the SSI at the moment. If you are not aware of them, we will perhaps come back to this question, given that we are looking at the SSI in its current form.

Criminal Justice Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. That is very helpful. We now open up to questions. I think that you covered this in your opening remarks, cabinet secretary, but can you confirm that the provisions that we are looking at would be for the duration of the general assembly event only and do not stretch beyond that? The policy note that we have says:

“it is necessary to grant INTERPOL the relevant privileges and immunities required to operate effectively across Great Britain and Northern Ireland on an ongoing basis.”

Can you confirm that that does not mean that, once the order is in place or if it is agreed to today, it would be a permanent provision?

Criminal Justice Committee

Tackling Online Child Abuse, Grooming and Exploitation

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Audrey Nicoll

A couple of members still want to come in, but I want to pick up on the discussion about data, which is an issue that the committee talks about quite a lot. I am interested in your views on what data we should collect to underpin the work on tackling gender-based violence or, in this case, tackling the online space. How do we do that when there are a lot of moving parts and different organisations have different roles and responsibilities relating to the overall work that is done? It would be helpful for the committee to understand how that underpinning data set could be developed.

Criminal Justice Committee

Tackling Online Child Abuse, Grooming and Exploitation

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Gosh, thanks very much. That brings in a whole other discussion about resourcing.

Stuart Allardyce, how can we make our collection of data as robust and targeted as possible?

Criminal Justice Committee

Tackling Online Child Abuse, Grooming and Exploitation

Meeting date: 31 May 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. There was a lot in that answer.