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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 September 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Good morning, and welcome to the 22nd meeting in 2023 of the Criminal Justice Committee. We have received apologies from Katy Clark.

Our first item of business is to welcome Sharon Dowey to her first meeting of the committee. I look forward to working with her. I invite her to declare any interests that are relevant to the committee’s remit.

Criminal Justice Committee

Interests

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests in relation to agenda item 7, which is our approach to the Police (Ethics, Conduct and Scrutiny) (Scotland) Bill, albeit that we will discuss it in private. I am a former police officer.

Criminal Justice Committee

Deaths in Prison Custody

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I know that members will be looking more deeply into that aspect.

I am keen for our session to focus on progress on the recommendations, but it might be helpful to step back a bit first. As you said, given the size of the prison population in Scotland, it is, sadly, inevitable that there will be some deaths in the prison estate. It might be helpful if you were to outline a bit of context regarding the experience of mortality in prisons. What are the common underlying reasons, for example?

Criminal Justice Committee

Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Act 2018: Post-legislative Scrutiny

Meeting date: 20 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Our next item of business is to review the Scottish Government’s response to our post-legislative inquiry on the Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Act 2018. I refer members to paper 3. I invite members to come in with any comments or points that they would like to make on the Scottish Government’s response, or to give any suggestions for further follow up.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I call Donald Cameron, to be followed by Rona Mackay. I ask members and witnesses to be as succinct as possible, so that we can get in as many questions as possible.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I am pleased to welcome our second panel of witnesses, who are Stephen McGowan, Deputy Crown Agent, Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service; and Eric McQueen, chief executive, Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service.

I will begin with the same opening question that I asked our earlier panel. During scrutiny last year, both organisations that are here today painted a concerning picture of the state of your budgets, although that was relieved in part by extra funding. I invite the Crown Office and then the Courts and Tribunals Service to tell us briefly what your experience of the financial situation has been for 2023-24 and what, if any, concerns and commentary you have as we approach the 2024-25 settlement.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

I bring in John Swinney to ask a quick supplementary.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you very much indeed.

I am going to use the same format that I used in the previous session and hand over to Russell Findlay, after which I will bring in Katy Clark. I should also say that I am looking at giving members eight or so minutes each, but I will bring in supplementaries if we have time at the end.

Criminal Justice Committee

Pre-Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

You have time.

Criminal Justice Committee

Northern Ireland Troubles (Legacy and Reconciliation) Bill

Meeting date: 13 September 2023

Audrey Nicoll

Our final item of business today is to review a supplementary legislative consent memorandum on the UK Government’s Northern Ireland Troubles (Legacy and Reconciliation) Bill.

The LCM has been lodged because a small number of relatively minor amendments have been made to the bill since we last considered the issue of consent, and they impact on devolved competences. As outlined in the LCM, the new amendments fall within the Scottish Parliament’s legislative competence, as they relate to the way in which the Independent Commission for Reconciliation and Information Recovery carries out its functions, in so far as they relate to Scotland, with regard to criminal investigations and the review and investigations of deaths or harmful conduct. The amendments therefore require the Scottish Parliament’s consent.

Before we start, I point out to members that the new amendments do not affect the key parts of the bill that we have looked at and the Scottish Government has not changed its view that the Scottish Parliament should not consent to the relevant parts in this bill for reasons that we have already discussed and, after a vote, agreed with. I should also point out that, because of the timetable in the UK Parliament and our recess, the bill passed into law last night. Therefore, all we need do today is note this development.

If no one has anything else to add, do we agree to note the supplementary LCM?

Members indicated agreement.