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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 2 April 2026
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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you, cabinet secretary. I will open the meeting to members’ questions, and I will bring in Liam Kerr.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Audrey Nicoll

Cabinet secretary, you said that it would be for the Scottish Prison Service to consider suitability or eligibility for removal under the early removal scheme. That is then referred on to the Home Office for consideration. However, am I right in thinking that, should a governor feel that early removal is not appropriate, they could effectively veto it?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 25 February 2026

Audrey Nicoll

Are members content to delegate responsibility to me and the clerks to approve a short factual report to the Parliament on the affirmative instrument?

Members indicated agreement.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you for that helpful clarification. That brings us to the end of the session. Thank you both very much indeed—it has been a very worthwhile session.

We will have a short suspension to allow our witnesses to change over.

11:07

Meeting suspended.

11:12

On resuming—

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you for your opening remarks. I know that members are keen to drill into some of the points that you have raised in your opening statement, but I will kick things off by referring to your submission, which helpfully flags not only the fact that an internal review is taking place on reform of the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service and its delivery, and the impact of the budget in that respect, but the implications of the public service reform strategy. There is quite a lot going on that you, as a union, and the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service are having to grapple with.

Bearing all that context in mind, and given what you have just outlined, what do you want to see—or what would you like to see—in the next year or the next three years that would change the position that you are in? What do you need? You have talked about where we are with regard to the budget, but how will that need to change to bring things up to an acceptable and sustainable level?

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Audrey Nicoll

I will go to Rona Mackay before I come in with a couple of final points.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Audrey Nicoll

Thank you. Forgive my ignorance, but I presume that you are referring to UK legislation.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Audrey Nicoll

The next item of business is an evidence-taking session on the challenges and reforms facing the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service. We have two panels of witnesses, and I refer members to papers 1 and 2.

For our first panel, I welcome from the Fire Brigades Union Colin Brown, executive council member for Scotland, and John McKenzie, Scottish regional secretary. It is nice to see you both.

As usual, I remind everyone to be succinct in their questions and responses. I now invite Colin Brown or John McKenzie to make a short opening statement.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Audrey Nicoll

We are coming up to noon, which was our scheduled finishing time, but there are still a couple of members who would like to come in with questions. If you can bear with us, we will run over a bit.

Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fire and Rescue Service

Meeting date: 4 February 2026

Audrey Nicoll

We will move on to our second panel of witnesses, who are our colleagues from the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service. I welcome Mhairi Wylie, chair of the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service board; Stuart Stevens, chief officer; Andy Watt, deputy chief officer; and Deborah Stanfield, interim director of finance and contractual services.

Thank you very much for your submission. I note the follow-up correspondence on progress on the review, which all MSPs received this morning.

You heard the evidence from our first panel, and there will be quite a lot to work through. I ask Mhairi or Stuart to make a short opening statement.