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Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Audrey Nicoll
Part of your role involves engaging with international partners at conferences and other events, which are really important opportunities to hear and find out about practice, policy developments and the direction of travel in other jurisdictions. What have you learned? Has any particular practice come to your notice that you feel might be relevant to the Scottish biometrics landscape?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Audrey Nicoll
Our next item of business is an evidence session with the Scottish Biometrics Commissioner’s team on its work in the past year and its plans for the future. I am pleased to be joined by Dr Brian Plastow, commissioner, and Ross MacDonald, director. I refer members to paper 4. I intend to allow up to 60 minutes for the session. I invite the commissioner to make a short opening statement to highlight the main points in his annual report, before we move to questions.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Audrey Nicoll
We have a couple more areas of interest. I will bring in Fulton MacGregor on criminal justice social work, and then I will bring in Sharon Dowey on a couple of legislation questions, if Sharon still wants to ask them.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Audrey Nicoll
You mentioned the UK Government. The UK budget process has recently been completed but the Scottish budget has not yet been announced. Has there been any early consideration of the impact that UK budget announcements will have on justice? For example, we are aware of some possible concern regarding the impact that the budget might have on third sector organisations and know that those organisations are a big part of some service delivery within justice. Has there been any early consideration of what the budget for the justice sector might look like?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Audrey Nicoll
Thank you for that. I am going to bring in members, so I will hand straight over to Liam Kerr and then Sharon Dowey.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Audrey Nicoll
The committee might be interested in some follow-up on that, cabinet secretary, as that is an area that we have been looking at closely.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Audrey Nicoll
Our next item of business is to conclude our evidence-taking as part of our pre-budget scrutiny. I am pleased to be joined by Angela Constance, who is the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs, and her officials Mr Don McGillivray, who is the director of safer communities, and Ms Gillian Russell, who is director of justice. Thank you for joining us.
I refer members to papers 1 and 2 and to the written submissions from a range of other organisations, which are set out in the annexe to paper 2. We are, as ever, grateful to everyone who sent in their views.
I intend to allow around 90 minutes for this session and I ask the cabinet secretary to make a short opening statement.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Audrey Nicoll
That was fascinating.
To come back to Scotland, as it were, I will pick up on a point that we discussed during your previous session with us. You suggested that there might be potential to expand your remit to include the prison estate because of the extensive biometric data that exists in that part of the justice sector. Will you give us an update on that work? Have you been able to move that forward?
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Audrey Nicoll
That was a really interesting update. I commend the annual report, which has a lot of interesting detail that reflects the breadth and detail of the work that has been undertaken this past year.
You have spoken a lot about Police Scotland in the context of the assurance review work and the recommendations that have come out of it, and some of the compliance work that you have done, which is really interesting.
I am very interested, however, in a letter that you sent to Police Scotland in October 2023, with regard to the DESC pilot. The level of detail in the letter is to be commended. Essentially, you set out some concerns that you have with regard to—I will not even attempt to sound as though I have a technical brain—an aspect of Police Scotland’s cloud storage. I am sure that other members will want to come in on that point but I am interested in any update that you have with regard to the specific issue that has been flagged. The fact that you are able to pick up something such as that and take it forward really reflects the value of your commissioner role.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 13 November 2024
Audrey Nicoll
I thank you and your officials very much for your time, cabinet secretary.
We will have a short suspension to allow for the changeover of witnesses.
11:07 Meeting suspended.