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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 March 2026
Audrey Nicoll
Thank you very much—that is very helpful. It is safe to say that the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service has gone through significant change over the decades—from the first significant amalgamation of individual fire services right up to today, when there is a shift in service delivery demand. There are fewer fires but more major incidents and weather-related events, and there is a lot of good partnership working.
Bearing that in mind, how easy or difficult has that made your role? I am very interested to hear your comments, from the inspectorate’s perspective, on how the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service has adapted both to the natural changes in operational demand and to the more co-ordinated reform agenda that it is in the midst of.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 March 2026
Audrey Nicoll
To stay on some of the operational delivery issues that have been flagged during our committee’s evidence sessions, will you provide an update on your work programme for some of those issues? For example, will you give an update on the recruitment of retained firefighters, issues around decontamination facilities in fire stations and the associated compensation risk, and the operational impact of reinforced autoclaved aerated concrete in the—I think—14 stations in which it has been found? The other issue that has come up is response times, but you already answered a question from Pauline McNeill about that. Do you have those issues in your on-going or future work programme?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 March 2026
Audrey Nicoll
I appreciate the resource constraints and the challenges in that regard. Your comment about what is going on south of the border is interesting. That is perhaps indicative of a much greater acknowledgement of the challenges that are faced in relation to abuse of power, sexual predators and so on. Next week, the committee will take evidence from His Majesty’s Inspectorate of Prosecution in Scotland, so we might well follow up on the role of the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service and, in particular, its criminal allegations against the police division, in dealing with police officers in the context of criminal allegations.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 March 2026
Audrey Nicoll
Rona Mackay can come in briefly.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 March 2026
Audrey Nicoll
We are just on the hour, but I wonder whether I can come in with the final question for the chief constable. In your opening remarks, you highlighted the spending pressure that comes from the impact of new legislation, much of which has come from this committee in the past few years. However, as my colleague Sharon Dowey highlighted earlier, we are just about to consider a Scottish statutory instrument on reporting human trafficking to Police Scotland. We are also considering the impact of the HMICS report on vetting for police officers. All of those additional requirements, plus the legislation that is coming down the track under the Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Act 2025, for example, must add significant costs to your budget. I am interested to hear a wee bit more commentary on that pressure.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 March 2026
Audrey Nicoll
I do not want to rush you, but I ask you to be as succinct as possible, cabinet secretary.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 March 2026
Audrey Nicoll
I call Sharon Dowey.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 March 2026
Audrey Nicoll
There will be a division.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 March 2026
Audrey Nicoll
The result of the division is: For 4, Against 4, Abstentions 0.
As the convener, I will use my casting vote to vote in support of the motion.
Motion agreed to,
That the Criminal Justice Committee recommends that the Prisoners (Early Release) (Miscellaneous Amendment and Transitional Provisions) (Scotland) Regulations 2026 [draft] be approved.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 4 March 2026
Audrey Nicoll
The report will be published shortly.
I thank the cabinet secretary, Ms Pollock and the officials for joining us this morning. We will have a brief suspension before moving to our next item of business.
11:12
Meeting suspended.
11:17
On resuming—