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Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 January 2025
Audrey Nicoll
That is us just a little bit over time, but it has been a very helpful session. I thank everyone for joining us today—it is most appreciated. We will have a short suspension to allow for a changeover of witnesses.
11:12 Meeting suspended.Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 January 2025
Audrey Nicoll
We are now joined by our second panel of witnesses. I welcome Kate Wallace, chief executive officer of Victim Support Scotland, and Adam Stachura, associate director of policy, communications and external affairs at Age Scotland. Welcome to you both, and thank you for your written submissions, which were circulated ahead of today’s meeting. I intend to allow around 60 minutes for this evidence session.
As always, I will open up with a general question, and it concerns the provisions in parts 1 and 2 of the bill. I appreciate that each of you probably has a stronger interest in different parts of the bill. Kate Wallace will be interested in part 2, while Adam Stachura is probably more interested in part 1.
The committee has an overall sense of your views on the provisions in the bill, but I specifically want to ask about any areas of concern. I will bring in Adam Stachura first, and then Kate Wallace. You can refer to whichever part of the bill you are interested in.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 January 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Thank you very much.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 January 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Our next item is stage 1 scrutiny of the Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill. We are joined by Simon Brown, president of the Scottish Solicitors Bar Association; Stuart Munro, convener of the criminal law committee at the Law Society of Scotland; and Paul Smith, president of the Edinburgh Bar Association. Thank you for taking the time to attend today’s meeting and for your written submissions, which were helpful for committee members.
I will bring in Ben Macpherson.
09:45Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 January 2025
Audrey Nicoll
I am very interested to hear about that working group, as I was not aware of that. I am sure that members will have questions about its work in due course.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 January 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Yes, if you are very quick.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 January 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Finally, I call Liam Kerr.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 January 2025
Audrey Nicoll
I have a final question, which is for Adam Stachura and is about something that just came into my mind. The question concerns part 1 of the bill and is about capacity. You have outlined some of your views on choice, particularly for older people. When an older person finds themselves in the criminal justice system, or even in the civil justice system, and where there may be issues around capacity, what needs to be considered so that the provisions in part 1 remain relevant and accessible for them? For example, I am thinking of cases where there might be power of attorney or guardianship.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 January 2025
Audrey Nicoll
That is helpful. I was going to finish up by asking whether the witnesses wanted to comment on anything else that we had not picked up on in our questions. I do not know whether you heard the evidence of the previous panel with regard to time limits. Organisations and stakeholders are obviously well sighted on that issue, so I appreciate your comments.
Adam, would you like to bring up anything else that we have not covered?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 January 2025
Audrey Nicoll
You mentioned forced marriage and honour killings, or one of the two—I cannot remember which. I am surprised that those issues are not included in the bill’s provisions. What is your comment on that type of violence not being included in the review process?