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Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 29 January 2025
Audrey Nicoll
I think that Sharon Dowey would like to follow up on that.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 29 January 2025
Audrey Nicoll
I am aware that we have run over our time a little, but it has been important to let this part of the meeting run.
I have a couple of final questions about part 2 of the bill, which would allow reviews to be carried out in parallel with other proceedings, namely criminal ones. However, the Lord Advocate would have the power to pause or end a review process to prevent other proceedings from being prejudiced. I am interested in hearing the views of Laura Buchan and Emma Forbes on that provision.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 29 January 2025
Audrey Nicoll
That is great.
Criminal Justice Committee
Meeting date: 29 January 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Good morning, and welcome to the fourth meeting in 2025 of the Criminal Justice Committee. We have received no apologies this morning.
Our first item of business is to continue our stage 1 scrutiny of the Criminal Justice Modernisation and Abusive Domestic Behaviour Reviews (Scotland) Bill. We have a good panel of witnesses. I am pleased to welcome Laura Buchan, from the policy and engagement division of the Crown Office and Procurator Fiscal Service, and Dr Emma Forbes, the national lead for domestic abuse for the Crown Office; Malcolm Graham, the chief executive of the Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service; and Superintendent Richard Thomas and Detective Superintendent Adam Brown from Police Scotland. I offer a warm welcome to you all. Thank you for taking the time to attend today’s meeting and for your submissions, which have been very helpful.
I intend to allow about 75 minutes for this session. I refer members to papers 1 and 2. To get the session under way, I will start with a pretty broad question that focuses on part 1 of the bill. I propose to bring in Laura Buchan first, followed by Malcolm Graham and Superintendent Richard Thomas.
Part 1 of the bill makes a range of changes to the procedures in criminal courts. In order for the committee to get a sense of your overall views of the proposals, could you briefly outline any provisions in part 1 in relation to which you have any issues or concern? When we started our evidence taking last week, issues came up relating to resourcing and the practical implications of the provisions.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 January 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Do you want to come in with a supplementary question, Ben Macpherson, or not quite yet?
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 January 2025
Audrey Nicoll
I will therefore bring in Pauline McNeill now, followed by Ben Macpherson.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 January 2025
Audrey Nicoll
There is some helpful information in your submission on the extent to which some older people are still excluded from the digital space. It was helpful of you to set that scene.
I am interested in the experience of the pandemic. Do you have any comments on the impact of the pandemic on older people and on whether or not there was a kind of positive outcome in so far as it brought older people into the digital space, where they might not have been otherwise? I am interested in whether a little bit of that shift happened.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 January 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Simon Brown, in response to Pauline McNeill, you said that the proposal was going for faster and, I think, more efficient justice rather than for quality—
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 January 2025
Audrey Nicoll
As members have no questions, we will move to our second item of business, which is consideration of the motion to recommend approval of the draft affirmative SSI on which we have just taken oral evidence.
Motion moved,
That the Criminal Justice Committee recommends that the International Organisations (Immunities and Privileges) (Scotland) Amendment Order 2025 [draft] be approved.—[Angela Constance]
Motion agreed to.
Criminal Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 22 January 2025
Audrey Nicoll
Are members content to delegate responsibility to me and the clerks to approve a short factual report to the Parliament on the affirmative instrument?
Members indicated agreement.