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Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 18 December 2025
Angus Robertson
I did not discern a question from Mr Kerr.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 18 December 2025
Angus Robertson
I can agree with Mr Kerr—that might shock those who are watching these proceedings—that the UK, because it has an unwritten constitution, has flexibility, to use the word that he used, to make different arrangements. However—
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 18 December 2025
Angus Robertson
We still have no answer.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 18 December 2025
Angus Robertson
Convener, I am giving an answer to Mr Halcro Johnston’s observations.
Mr Halcro Johnston said an interesting thing when he talked about Lorna Slater and others saying that a vote for the Scottish Greens—and, by extension, the SNP—was not, of itself, a mandate for independence. I agree—what it is, though, is a mandate for a referendum. Both the Scottish National Party and the Scottish Green Party, which make up the majority in this Parliament, were elected on a manifesto commitment that there should be a referendum. I would never ever pray in aid somebody voting for me in Edinburgh Central to keep the Tories out—because it is a two-horse race there between the SNP and the Tories—and say that a vote of a Labour, Liberal Democrat or Green voter who wanted to keep the Tories out was necessarily a vote for independence per se. However, I am very clear that, when a party says in its manifesto that it is committed to, and that its MSPs will vote for, a referendum taking place, it is a mandate to have that choice.
We do not need to go round the houses again on this, but it would appear that the salient point here is being lost by some. There is a difference between having the right of self-determination—and having an agreed route as democrats to be able to do that—and the pros and cons of independence itself. Nobody on the no side of the constitutional argument has been prepared to address that gap.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 18 December 2025
Angus Robertson
Mr Halcro Johnston will not, I am sure, be surprised to learn that I am a democrat and that the Scottish National Party is a democratic party that believes in the democratic process. Therefore, the plan is based on those principles. We are standing for election to this Parliament, and if we are elected, we will pursue an independence referendum.
In any other country, or in any other circumstance, it would not be considered a strange proposition that the party that wins with a manifesto commitment to do something actually does it. In fact, in most normal countries, Opposition parliamentarians would be jumping up and down, talking about delivering manifesto commitments—
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 18 December 2025
Angus Robertson
I understand the point that Mr Harvie is making, but it is also a question for other political parties. It is not a question only for the political parties that are in favour of having a referendum, which may or may not be in favour of independence.
Helpfully, the Welsh Government has very recently published a report on the constitutional future of Wales in the United Kingdom, and it says:
“it must be open to any of its parts democratically to choose to withdraw from the Union. If this were not so, a nation could conceivably be bound into the UK against its will, a situation both undemocratic and inconsistent with the idea of a Union based on shared values and interests.”
We may disagree on the substance and how we would vote, but I am simply appealing to colleagues, as democrats, to agree that, through the ballot box in a democratic election to this Parliament, we should be able to determine a vote on the country’s future. It is not that complicated. It is pretty basic in terms of democratic values, and it has the beauty of a precedent. It has happened before, so it can and it will happen again.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 18 December 2025
Angus Robertson
Through a vote by parliamentarians.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 18 December 2025
Angus Robertson
I am very disappointed by Mr Halcro Johnston, but we should—
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 18 December 2025
Angus Robertson
There is no other route to Scottish independence than through the ballot box. I am committed to that and I would hope that Mr Halcro Johnston would be committed to that as well.
Constitution, Europe, External Affairs and Culture Committee
Meeting date: 18 December 2025
Angus Robertson
You are putting words into my mouth, Mr Halcro Johnston.