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On the interaction with the Charities (Regulation and Administration) (Scotland) Bill, charity law and trust law are two distinct and well-established areas of Scots law. That point was made separately by Lord Drummond Young and John McArthur in their evidence to the committee. We know that 12 per cent of charities that are registered in Scotland take trust as their legal form, and those charities are subject to both charity law and trust law. Otherwise, there is a range of other legal forms that charities can take, which include a company, an unincorporated association and a Scottish charitable incorporated organisation. Charitable companies, for example, must comply with charity law and company law, and trust law is of no relevance to them.

OSCR has written to the committee and welcomed the bill. It has said of the trustee’s duty of care, for instance, that it fits with

“the standard of care expected of charity trustees when managing the ... charity”.

My view is that the two bills complement each other and work well together, and that the modernisation of trust law is helpful for charities that take trust as their legal form.

The power would not allow a protector to amend the domicile of a trust, but would instead allow a protector to determine, but not thereafter to change, the jurisdiction whose laws shall be used to determine what the governing law of the trust is. Accordingly, where a protector determines that the law of domicile of a trust is in Scotland, the domicile of that trust will be determined in accordance with Scots law. Under Scots law, it may be determined that the domicile of a trust is a jurisdiction other than Scotland. I am happy to work with the committee on that issue.

Yes.

The law of succession affects everyone, but it can also divide opinion. The committee has heard that, although everyone agrees that the law of succession needs reforming, there is no consensus on what those reforms should be. It has heard about possible reforms to the financial provision for cohabitants when one partner dies, which the Scottish Government has consulted on previously.

Any amendment to the relevant timescale would need to address the issue of scope and it would fragment the law in the area. Recently, the SLC has published a report on financial provision in the case of the breakdown of a cohabiting relationship in circumstances other than death. The Scottish Government will give consideration to a revised definition of cohabitants, which should extend to situations in which a cohabiting relationship ends by way of death, including the relevant timescale.

We took the recommendations from the Scottish Law Commission but if the committee wants to make any suggestions in its stage 1 report we would be happy to consider them and talk to the SLC.

Yes, I do. That is why I am willing to work with the committee on moving the time limit forward.

Yes. As I have said in answer to previous questions, I will consider any recommendation that the committee makes at stage 1, including on alternative time limits.

You have raised a really valid point. We will go away and consider it, and we will get back to the committee on that point.

Good morning, convener and committee. Thank you for giving me the opportunity to speak to you about the Trusts and Succession (Scotland) Bill, which is the second Scottish Law Commission bill to be introduced this session.

Trusts are an important legal structure in Scotland. In modern society, they are used as solutions in an incredibly wide variety of situations, as the committee has heard in its evidence. They are used extensively by charities and pension funds; in commercial transactions to set funds aside to deal with future liabilities; in individual estate planning; and to protect and administer assets on behalf of vulnerable people such as children, and adults with incapacity and disabilities.

Scots law, however, has not kept up to date with the increasing variety of situations in which trusts are used. The bill aims to modernise the law of trusts and take forward all the substantive recommendations on reform that are contained in the Scottish Law Commission’s report on trusts.

Given the versatility of trusts and the uses to which they are put, the policy aim is to make sure that the law of trusts is clear and coherent and can respond appropriately to modern conditions. The huge variety of uses to which trusts are put also presents a challenge, as the bill must work equally as well for large-scale commercial or charitable trusts as it does for small-scale family trusts.

As for some of the key changes that the bill makes, it updates the powers and duties of trustees, including introducing a non-judicial method for removing trustees; restates trustees’ power of investments; sets out trustees’ duty of care and duty to provide information to beneficiaries; and confers a number of important powers on the court, including a new power to alter trust purposes after the 25-year period has elapsed.

There are also two provisions on succession law, one of which is technical and is intended to clear up potential confusion in the drafting of a section in the Succession (Scotland) Act 2016. The other, more substantive provision makes changes to the order of intestate succession so that the spouse or civil partner of a person who has no children and who dies without leaving a will inherits the entire estate of the deceased. That important change reflects what many people expect to happen already, but which is not actually reflected in the current law.

The committee has heard from a number of stakeholders who have welcomed and have been positive about the bill. I am aware that points of detail have been raised, which I am sure that we will come on to discuss. I would like to say at this stage that I am willing to work with the committee on some of the issues that have been raised with you, and I am happy to take any questions.

That is an area on which I am willing to work with the committee. Trustees are given broad investment powers that do not prohibit taking into account environmental concerns, as stakeholders have recognised. Trustees are presently required to consider the suitability of a proposed investment for the trust. That is not an instruction to maximise financial return at all costs. I am aware that the committee has heard that trustees of trusts whose purposes are the eradication of poverty would not consider it suitable to invest in tobacco, alcohol or gambling for example. Ultimately, the investment policy that the trustees should adopt must reflect the purposes of the trust as set out by the truster in the trust deed.

As I have said, the role and fundamental duty of the trustees is to implement the trust’s purposes and care is needed to ensure that the trustees, when making investment decisions, are not instructed to take into account their personal values.

I have heard the views of a wide range of stakeholders that express provision would be helpful to make clear that, when assessing the suitability of an investment for a trust, financial returns are not the only consideration that may be taken into account. For example, the environmental and social impacts could also be relevant considerations. I will consider further what could be done on the issue, and look forward to working with the committee and the SLC on the matter as the bill continues its passage through Parliament.