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Section 9(5) allows the Accountant of Court to fix a different rate of remuneration for

“a particular interim judicial factor”.

In its written evidence, the Faculty of Advocates queried why that discretion was restricted to interim judicial factors and did not apply to permanent judicial factors. The policy behind section 9 is to provide flexibility for the fixing of rates of remuneration to allow for variations in particular circumstances or when unusual duties are imposed on a particular judicial factor. Having considered the faculty’s evidence, I agree that the discretion conferred by the bill in that respect should be extended to apply to permanent judicial factors. That is what amendment 11 provides for.

I move amendment 11.

Amendment 11 agreed to.

Section 9, as amended, agreed to.

After section 9

Sections 12 and 39 of the bill confer powers on judicial factors and on the Accountant of Court to request information in relation to factory estates from persons and bodies. That might include, for example, requests being made to banks for financial information relating to an estate.

During stage 1, some stakeholders expressed concern regarding the provisions in sections 12(7) and 39(6), which set out that sections 12 and 39 do not authorise disclosures that contravene data protection legislation. The concerns were echoed by the committee, with the committee recommending that the Scottish Government consider clarifying the provisions further in the bill or removing them.

In the light of those concerns, I have given further consideration to the provisions and have lodged amendments 16 and 36, which adjust sections 12(7) and 39(6) to provide further clarification on the interplay with data protection legislation. The amendments make clear that, where the holder of information is considering whether a disclosure would contravene data protection legislation, they must take into account the provisions in the bill that authorise or require disclosure.

I move amendment 16.

Amendment 16 agreed to.

Section 12, as amended, agreed to.

Section 13—Ingathering

Amendment 17 moved—[Siobhian Brown]—and agreed to.

Section 13, as amended, agreed to.

Sections 14 to 25 agreed to.

Section 26—Validity of certain transactions by judicial factor appointed on trust estate

Amendment 18 moved—[Siobhian Brown]—and agreed to.

Section 26, as amended, agreed to.

Section 27—Approval of judicial factor’s scheme for distribution of factory estate

Amendments 19 to 21 moved—[Siobhian Brown]—and agreed to.

Thank you, convener, and good morning.

I welcome the opportunity to appear before the committee to give evidence on Scotland’s compliance with the Aarhus convention. As members of the committee will know, the convention consists of three pillars: access to environmental information for any citizen; the right to public participation in decision making; and access to justice in environmental matters. My portfolio responsibilities relate to the access to justice pillar.

We are all very appreciative of the detailed work that the ACCC undertook to ensure compliance with this important convention. It is a complex and cross-cutting area of work that touches on a number of different policy areas. Enormous strides have been made towards compliance under the current Government. Despite that, at a meeting of the parties in October 2021, the ACCC found both Scotland and the rest of the UK as a whole to be non-compliant. The ACCC had previously welcomed Scotland’s significant progress in 2018, and work is on-going to strengthen compliance in the areas of concern that the ACCC identified in its most recent decision. We are optimistic that further progress will be recognised, following the submission of our update later this month.

Officials have continued to work with our counterparts in the Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs and in both the Welsh Parliament and the Northern Ireland Assembly to provide a response to the ACCC that addresses the concerns that have been raised.

I am happy to answer questions, convener.

Sure. Several issues were raised in the report, and I can highlight probably four on which action has been taken since it was published.

The first issue is cost protection on appeal. Under a rule change enacted in June 2024, reclaiming is progressed in the same manner, regardless of whether it is a petitioner or the respondent who is appealing the original decision. The rule change clarifies that court fees are included in the cost cap and also addresses the issue that was raised by the ACCC.

Another issue related to protective expenses orders. A rule change was enacted, prompting a petitioner to request confidentiality when they lodge a motion requesting a protective expenses order, and in the event of a hearing, it would be heard in chambers, from which the public would be excluded. A rule change was also enacted in June 2024 with regard to interveners. The Scottish Government has taken action to clarify that a potential litigant’s exposure to an intervener’s costs is likely to be nil, providing that they act reasonably.

In relation to court fees, following a public consultation in 2022, an exemption from such fees was introduced for Aarhus cases raised in the Court of Session. Therefore, the ACCC’s concern over whether court fees would be included in cost caps has become redundant, which has been welcomed by all stakeholders and environmental NGOs.

Several other issues were raised for proposed action, but I do not know whether you want me to cover all of them, too, or whether you are happy with that progress.

Yes. Legal aid reform is simply one element of access to justice, together with court fees and protective expenses orders.

As I have said on record, it has not been possible thus far to introduce a bill to enact any change in this parliamentary session. However, that does not prevent us from making further reforms that we can build on to simplify the legal aid system and reform fees within the current legislative framework, perhaps through the use of secondary legislation.

I am confident that we can still comply with the convention without full legal aid reform.

I will bring in Denise, but my understanding is that, even if there were to be reforms to regulation 15, we would have to carefully consider the knock-on effects on different portfolio areas.

We are looking at starting the engagement process towards the end of this year and the beginning of next year. The timescale would be to put in place secondary legislation before the end of the current session of Parliament, so there will be some reform of legal aid.

I do not know whether it will be an oral statement; it will come towards the end of November.

Perhaps I can give you a little bit of history first. When the ACCC reported back in 2021, it asked that the UK be required to submit an action plan in 2022, followed by a progress report in October 2023 and a final progress report in October 2024. However, following the general election in July, and the consequent change of Government, the ACCC agreed to an extension for the submission of the final progress report to the end of this month. The Scottish Government supplied our report to DEFRA several weeks ago.

As I said, we know that the SCJC has committed to public consultation on the extension of protective expenses orders to the sheriff courts. That will be in its work plan for 2024-25.

As it is independent of Government, it would be inappropriate for me to comment at this stage. If we got to the end of that consultation and there were concerns, it would perhaps be an issue that Government could consider at that stage. However, as the SCJC is moving towards a consultation, I do not think that it would be appropriate for me to interfere.