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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 5 November 2025
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Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Siobhian Brown

I will bring in Mari Bremner, who is a specialist in that area. However, reform is about improving things across the three schemes.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Siobhian Brown

Provisions in the Criminal Justice (Scotland) Act 2003 allow for information to be provided to a victim when an offender is subject to a compulsion order, although those provisions have not yet been used. It is our intention to consult on how the scheme might operate for such victims. That is likely to include conversations on whether it would be applicable in all types of offence and what information should be shared. It will be important to ensure that any information that is shared is appropriate and proportionate. There may be merit in waiting until the victim contact team has been created prior to making any decisions on the VNS for victims of offenders on a compulsion order, because that is a very sensitive area.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Siobhian Brown

Absolutely. We can arrange that.

Criminal Justice Committee

Victims, Witnesses, and Justice Reform (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 11 December 2024

Siobhian Brown

I will see whether anyone else wants to comment, but I think that that is the point. How we contact victims is going to be so important when it comes to the victim contact team. It is all about ensuring that we do not have a long period of time without any contact, having a single point of contact and discussing with victims what their options are. After all, they might not feel strong enough to receive information; we do not know what traumatic impact it might have on individuals, so we really need to be sensitive and more trauma informed in those conversations. However, contact has to be on-going to ensure that, if the time ever comes that individuals want to be included in the VNS, they are able to register for it easily.

I do not know whether Lucy Smith wants to make any other points.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Judicial Factors (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Siobhian Brown

In its written evidence, the Faculty of Advocates suggested that, when the requirement to find caution is imposed by the court, the appointment of the judicial factor and the vesting of the estate and standard powers in the judicial factor should be postponed until after caution is found. I consider that it is sensible that registration of the appointment and vesting of the estate and standard powers do not take place until the accountant has confirmed that the requirement to find caution has been satisfied. That is what amendments 6, 7, 9, 10 and 13 provide for.

That ties in with section 8(3), which ensures that, when the court requires a caution to be found, the judicial factor does not receive a certified copy of the interlocutor and, thus, is not able to deal with the property until the accountant confirms that the requirement to find caution has been satisfied.

I ask members to support all my amendments in the group.

I move amendment 6.

Amendment 6 agreed to.

Amendment 7 moved—[Siobhian Brown]—and agreed to.

Section 6, as amended, agreed to.

After section 6

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Judicial Factors (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Siobhian Brown

Earlier this year, when responding to the committee’s stage 1 report, I set out my views on lodging an amendment to make it clear that it is competent to appoint a judicial factor over the estate of a missing person. During the stage 1 debate, it was clear that that was one of the issues about which many MSPs felt strongly. I have listened to those views and have considered whether more can be done to balance them with the wider policy regarding the circumstances in which the appointment of a judicial factor can be sought.

The committee’s recommendation is clear that a reference to missing people could be added in such a way to make it clear that the bill may be used by people who seek to manage the estate of a missing person. The committee knows my concerns about amending section 3, but my amendment 12 implements the recommendation while ensuring that the wider policy in the bill is not undermined.

Amendment 12 imposes a requirement on the Scottish ministers to produce guidance about the appointment of a judicial factor, under section 1, for the estates of missing people. As such, it makes it clear that the families of missing persons can use the bill.

I move amendment 12.

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Judicial Factors (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Siobhian Brown

Section 27 makes provision in relation to formulation of a scheme for distribution of the factory estate by a judicial factor. Where a person with an interest lodges an objection to the scheme prepared by the judicial factor, the Accountant of Court is required to refer the objection to the court. Under section 27(9) the court’s options are to either reject the objection and order distribution in line with the scheme prepared by the judicial factor, or to instruct the judicial factor to distribute the estate as the court thinks fit.

The Sheriffs and Summary Sheriffs Association suggested that a further option should be available to the court—namely, to make such other order as the court considers appropriate. Although it is anticipated that, in most cases, the court will order distribution of the estate, I consider that there might be circumstances where other orders, such as continuation of the judicial factory, may be appropriate. Amendment 22 adds further flexibility to section 27 by allowing the court to respond to the particular circumstances of a case.

I move amendment 22.

Amendment 22 agreed to.

Section 27, as amended, agreed to.

Section 28—Application for distribution of factory estate

Amendment 23 moved—[Siobhian Brown]—and agreed to.

Section 28, as amended, agreed to.

Section 29—Termination, recall and discharge after distribution of factory estate

Amendment 24 moved—[Siobhian Brown]—and agreed to.

Section 29, as amended, agreed to.

Section 30—Duty of Accountant to apply for appointment of replacement where judicial factor has died or ceased to perform duties

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Judicial Factors (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Siobhian Brown

Section 30 requires the Accountant of Court to apply for the appointment of a replacement judicial factor where the original factor dies or ceases to perform duties, where the Accountant of Court considers that the purpose for which the original factor was appointed still exists and that no application for replacement has been lodged by anyone else.

I have considered the provision further, however, and the bill does not set out what should happen when the original factor dies or ceases to perform their duties and the purpose for which they were appointed no longer exists, but some actions are still required to bring the judicial factory to an end. I consider that, in such circumstances, the judicial factory should be formally terminated following the processes under the bill and, where appropriate, the original factor discharged. Although that is not likely to be a common occurrence, amendment 25 is a sensible precaution to ensure that judicial factories are brought to a proper end and to avoid any doubts that might arise in such cases.

Amendments 26, 27 and 29 are all consequential amendments to reflect the addition of the new section 30(3A).

I move amendment 25.

Amendment 25 agreed to.

Amendments 26 and 27 moved—[Siobhian Brown]—and agreed to.

Section 30, as amended, agreed to.

Section 31—Resignation and applications for recall and discharge in other circumstances

Amendment 28 moved—[Siobhian Brown]—and agreed to.

Section 31, as amended, agreed to.

Section 32—Inventory and balance sheet where replacement judicial factor appointed

Amendment 29 moved—[Siobhian Brown]—and agreed to.

Section 32, as amended, agreed to.

Section 33—Termination of judicial factory where insufficient funds

Amendment 30 moved—[Siobhian Brown]—and agreed to.

Section 33, as amended, agreed to.

Section 34—Ending of judicial factor’s accountability on discharge

Amendment 31 moved—[Siobhian Brown]—and agreed to.

Section 34, as amended, agreed to.

Section 35—Accountant of Court: appointment, remuneration and fees

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Judicial Factors (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Siobhian Brown

The committee’s stage 1 report considered the criteria that a person must meet to be appointed as an Accountant of Court, and the committee concluded that what the bill provides for is sufficient. The committee did, however, recommend that Scottish ministers periodically review the Accountant of Court’s qualifications and that they should have the flexibility to amend the qualification requirements by way of secondary legislation. Amendment 32 makes the recommended changes and any regulations under the provision would be subject to the affirmative procedure.

Section 36(2) of the bill imposes the same criteria on the person who is appointed as a depute accountant as those that are imposed on the person who is appointed as the accountant under section 35(1). Amendment 33 therefore makes the same provision for reviewing the criteria for the depute accountant as amendment 32 does for the accountant. That ensures that both the accountant’s and the depute accountant’s qualifications are subject to review and can be amended if needed.

I move amendment 32.

Amendment 32 agreed to.

Section 35, as amended, agreed to.

Section 36—Depute Accountant

Amendment 33 moved—[Siobhian Brown]—and agreed to.

Section 36, as amended, agreed to.

Section 37 agreed to.

Section 38—Misconduct or failure of judicial factor

Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee

Judicial Factors (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 19 November 2024

Siobhian Brown

I am happy to have moved my amendment.

Amendment 34 agreed to.

Amendment 35 moved—[Siobhian Brown]—and agreed to.

Section 38, as amended, agreed to.

Section 39—Power of Accountant to require information

Amendment 36 moved—[Siobhian Brown]—and agreed to.

Section 39, as amended, agreed to.

Sections 40 to 42 agreed to.

Section 43—Inspection of records held by Accountant

Amendment 37 moved—[Siobhian Brown]—and agreed to.

Section 43, as amended, agreed to.

Section 44 agreed to.

Section 45—Right of judicial factor to require determination as regards decision of Accountant

Amendment 38 moved—[Siobhian Brown]—and agreed to.

Section 45, as amended, agreed to.

Sections 46 to 49 agreed to.

Schedule 2—Modification of enactments

Amendments 39 to 42 moved—[Siobhian Brown]—and agreed to.

Schedule 2, as amended, agreed to.

Schedule 3 agreed to.

Sections 50 to 52 agreed to.

Long title agreed to.