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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

Siobhian Brown

We will now consider the next motion under the agenda item, and I invite the Deputy First Minister to move motion S6M-01529.

Motion moved,

That the COVID-19 Recovery Committee recommends that the Health Protection (Coronavirus) (Requirements) (Scotland) Amendment (No. 2) Regulations 2021 (SSI 2021/349) be approved.—[John Swinney]

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Baseline Health Protection Measures

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

Siobhian Brown

We move to agenda item 4, under which we are taking evidence on baseline health protection measures from a panel of ventilation experts. I welcome Dr Hywel Davies, who is the technical director of the Chartered Institution of Building Services Engineers; Dr Shaun Fitzgerald, who is the director of the Centre for Climate Repair at the University of Cambridge; Professor Catherine Noakes, who is the professor of environmental engineering for buildings at the University of Leeds; and Professor Tim Sharpe, who is the head of architecture at the University of Strathclyde. We thank them all for giving us their time.

This is the first of four planned evidence sessions on baseline health protection measures, which are the main tools that we are using to respond to Covid-19. They include the steps that we are taking to enhance ventilation in our homes and workplaces and in settings where public services are delivered. This will be a short scoping session to allow us to consider the role that ventilation will play in lessening the impact of Covid-19, especially during the winter. We will also consider the role that ventilation might play in the recovery phase of the pandemic.

We hope that the session will inform further sessions that we plan to hold as part of our inquiry. We will hear from stakeholders in health and social care services, the hospitality, business and leisure sectors, and schools.

Will the witnesses briefly outline what they think are the main ventilation challenges that we should address as part of our response to Covid and our long-term recovery?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Baseline Health Protection Measures

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

Siobhian Brown

Thank you, Dr Davies. Before I bring in Dr Fitzgerald, I note that we live in Scotland, which is very cold, we are now moving into winter and energy prices are increasing astronomically, so I hesitate a little bit at the suggestion that we should open our windows. I understand that we would do so for ventilation, but I wonder whether in reality it will happen when people cannot afford to pay their energy bills.

I will bring in Dr Fitzgerald at this point.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Baseline Health Protection Measures

Meeting date: 4 November 2021

Siobhian Brown

I think that Professor Noakes has asked to speak.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Siobhian Brown

We are running a bit short of time, but Professor Leitch will be back next week, so we can ask him more general questions then.

Item 4 on the agenda is consideration of the motions on the affirmative instruments that we considered under the previous agenda item. The Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee have yet to consider the Health Protection (Coronavirus) (International Travel and Operator Liability) (Scotland) Amendment (No 5) Regulations 2021 (SSI 2021/359), so we will take the relevant motion at our meeting on 18 November.

I see that the minister does not wish to make any further comment on the instruments. If members are content for the motions to be moved en bloc, I invite the cabinet secretary to move the motions.

Motions moved,

That the COVID-19 Recovery Committee recommends that the Health Protection (Coronavirus) (International Travel and Operator Liability) (Scotland) Regulations 2021 (SSI 2021/322) be approved.

That the COVID-19 Recovery Committee recommends that the Health Protection (Coronavirus) (International Travel and Operator Liability) (Scotland) Amendment Regulations 2021 (SSI 2021/328) be approved.

That the COVID-19 Recovery Committee recommends that the Health Protection (Coronavirus) (International Travel and Operator Liability) (Scotland) Amendment (No 2) Regulations 2021 (SSI 2021/343) be approved.

That the COVID-19 Recovery Committee recommends that the Health Protection (Coronavirus) (International Travel and Operator Liability) (Scotland) Amendment (No 3) Regulations 2021 (SSI 2021/350) be approved.

That the COVID-19 Recovery Committee recommends that the Health Protection (Coronavirus) (International Travel and Operator Liability) (Scotland) Amendment (No 4) Regulations 2021 (SSI 2021/357) be approved.—[Graeme Dey]

Motions agreed to.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Siobhian Brown

Good morning, and welcome to the eighth meeting in 2021 of the COVID-19 Recovery Committee. I apologise for the slightly late start this morning.

The second agenda item is a decision on whether to take item 5, which will be consideration of evidence, in private. Do members agree to take item 5 in private?

Members indicated agreement.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Siobhian Brown

That is appreciated, thank you.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Siobhian Brown

The committee will publish a report to Parliament setting out our decision on the statutory instruments that have been considered at this meeting.

That concludes our consideration of this agenda item and our time with the minister. I thank the minister and his supporting officials for their attendance this morning. The committee’s next meeting will be on 4 November, when we will take evidence from the Deputy First Minister and Cabinet Secretary for Covid Recovery.

That concludes the public part of our meeting this morning. We now move into private session.

11:24 Meeting continued in private until 11:37.  

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Siobhian Brown

Agenda item 3 is evidence on the latest ministerial statement on Covid-19, and on subordinate legislation. I welcome to the meeting our witnesses from the Scottish Government. Graeme Dey is the Minister for Transport, Professor Jason Leitch is the national clinical director, Penelope Cooper is the director of Covid co-ordination and Graham Fisher is a deputy director in the Scottish Government legal directorate. Thank you for your attendance this morning.

Minister, would you like to make any remarks before we move to questions?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 28 October 2021

Siobhian Brown

People can now download the digital vaccination passports that show when their vaccinations took place. As we know, some people are unable to travel, such as teenagers who have not have their vaccination and those whose PCR—polymerase chain reaction—test may still come up positive even though they had Covid weeks ago.

Is the possibility of adapting the current digital app being explored? For example, if somebody gets Covid, that information can go into the app. If they have had two vaccinations, and they got Covid on 1 October—the national health service would know that if the person had been pinged—the app would have that information and, moving forward, it would also contain their history of booster vaccinations.

I am sorry if that is a bit technical, but I am concerned that some people are currently unable to travel because they had Covid previously and their test is still coming up positive even though they are no longer positive.