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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 3 November 2025
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Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Siobhian Brown

If I could, convener, I would like to start with a few opening remarks to provide a bit of clarity, as there is a bit of crossover between my portfolio and that of the Minister for Housing on the issue.

Thanks very much, everybody, for the opportunity to talk about the dismissal and the appointment of property factors, and to provide an update on the progress of the voluntary code of practice for the dismissal and the replacement of land-owning land maintenance companies.

My property law portfolio responsibility covers the dismissal and the appointment of property factors—sometimes referred to as switching—which includes the land-owning land maintenance companies. The Minister for Housing has portfolio responsibilities for the Property Factors (Scotland) Act 2011, which includes the register of properties factors and the code of conduct. My comments will focus specifically on my portfolio.

I know that the petitioner has called for legislation to cover the dismissal of property factors. Legislation is already in place that deals with that matter. If the title deeds of a property do not set out how the property factors are to be dismissed, provisions under the Title Conditions (Scotland) Act 2003 and the Tenements (Scotland) Act 2004 will apply.

As I have indicated in my previous responses to the committee, I consider that the existing remedies by which home owners might dismiss a factor are adequate and that a legislative change at this time is not necessary. I note that, in its response to the petition, Under One Roof said that the process to dismiss a property factor is not clear—I will come on to that—while the Property Managers Association Scotland considered that the current legislation on the matter is sufficient.

I recognise, however, that some home owners find the procedure to switch property factors complicated. A guidance note on manager burdens will be published shortly on the Scottish Government website, which will help home owners to navigate the various options with regard to establishing voting procedures.

I have spoken to my officials this morning and the website says that the guidance will be published shortly. I am told that the timescale is within the next few weeks, but there are a few technical issues with the graphics that are being added to the website.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Siobhian Brown

It is guidance on the various options for how voting procedures should be carried out when dealing with factors.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Siobhian Brown

I appreciate the petitioner’s comments and his experience, but it is quite rare that this has happened with factors. However, we need to ensure that a process is in place for anybody who wants to remove a factor. Usually, that is in the title deeds, so it would be unusual if that was not in place.

Moving forward, if someone feels intimidated because they have to get legal advice or go through the court process, I think that they should feel supported through our guidance. My officials might want to come in with something further here.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Siobhian Brown

The Scottish Government welcomes the CMA’s report and is grateful for its engagement with officials and the Scottish market in its investigation. It is a substantial report. Ministers and officials are considering the recommendations and will respond fully in due course. The suite of recommendations extends over a few ministerial portfolios and the impact of each recommendation needs to be considered in the wider context.

I understand that the Minister for Housing considers that it would be useful, while examining the findings and the recommendations of the CMA, to add more voices to the discussion, and he might include them in the proposed round-table session with property factors. It is under consideration.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Siobhian Brown

That has not been made clear to me, but, as I said, the Minister for Housing is looking into it. We can perhaps write to the committee on that.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Siobhian Brown

I am not aware of that number; I do not know whether any of my officials have it. We might have to write back to the committee with those details.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Siobhian Brown

Yes, absolutely. One of the things that I can do, which I take away from this evidence session, is to speak with the Minister for Housing, because if he is going to have a round-table session to examine the recommendations from the CMA report, that consideration could be intertwined with that.

Citizen Participation and Public Petitions Committee

Continued Petitions

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Siobhian Brown

I will pass over to Jill Clark, who has been involved in the design of it.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Siobhian Brown

Good morning, convener and committee members. The first set of amendments in the group relates to the Scottish Legal Complaints Commission and is the outcome of extensive engagement with the SLCC, with the content of the amendments having been agreed.

Amendment 312 and consequential amendments 438, 467, 499 and 523 remove the provisions in the bill that would have removed the word “Complaints” from the name of the Scottish Legal Complaints Commission. Following engagement with stakeholders, including the SLCC, and reflecting the committee’s recommendations, we acknowledge that our original intention to refer to the “Scottish Legal Services Commission” could be misleading for members of the public seeking to make a complaint about the legal profession.

Amendments 335 and 336 seek to make improvements to the complaints process by setting out what decision-making and delegation powers will be available to the Scottish Legal Complaints Commission. They are also the outcome of extensive engagement with the commission, with their content having been agreed.

Amendment 335 allows the commission to delegate a decision under new section 2A(1) of the Legal Profession and Legal Aid (Scotland) Act 2007, as inserted by amendment 315, to initiate a complaint in its own name only to one of its committees or to one of the commission’s members.?

Amendment 336 allows any member of the commission to take a decision on the disclosure of information under section 41A, which is the power for the SLCC to disclose information relating to complaints, where authorised to do so by the SLCC, which—if agreed to—will be introduced by amendment 533, in the name of Stuart McMillan, in group 18.

Amendment 339 reflects discussions with the SLCC and removes the ability to review a decision that a complaint is eligible to be progressed by the SLCC. There will be other opportunities for a complaints decision to be reviewed, and complaints that are deemed ineligible will remain eligible for review following the decision. ?Amendment 339 seeks to find a balance between allowing important decisions to be reviewed while also streamlining the complaints process. Amendment 345 is consequential to that change.

???Amendment 341 allows for a decision by the SLCC not to initiate the investigation of a services complaint or to close a case following a reasonable settlement offer from the practitioner to be a decision that is capable of being reviewed under new section 20A of the 2007 act. Amendment 346 is a consequential change.

Amendments 337, 340 and 342 to 344 are minor technical amendments.

Amendments 439 to 441 introduce flexibility into the membership of the SLCC board by allowing a minimum number of both lay and legal members, following concerns from the SLCC that it would be difficult for the board to maintain the non-lawyer majority if equal numbers of lay and legal members were required and the absence of a single non-lawyer member could make the board inquorate.??These amendments set out the minimum number of lay and legal members rather than requiring a set number for each.

Amendment 439 sets out that the membership of the SLCC’s board must be made up of at least eight but no more than 20 members in addition to the chair. Amendment 440 requires that the chair and at least four other members must be lay members. Amendment 441 provides that there must be at least three lawyer members.

Amendment 538 removes the requirement that the lawyer members of the SLCC’s board must have at least 10 years’ experience in any of the specified legal categories. Following discussions with the SLCC, that requirement was considered to be overly restrictive, preventing good candidates from being appointed. Therefore, amendment 538 provides additional flexibility regarding board appointments. Members are appointed only after consultation with the Lord President, in accordance with paragraph 2 of schedule 1 to the 2007 act. ?In addition, amendment 538 provides that there must be more non-lawyer members than lawyer members, but that difference must be no more than three.

Amendments 443 and 444 set out that each member of the SLCC board can be appointed for a period of not less than five years and not exceeding eight years, in keeping with the “Code of Practice for Ministerial Appointments to Public Bodies in Scotland”, which allows for a maximum period of appointment, including reappointment, of eight years.

Amendment 446 adds the consumer panel to the list of mandatory consultees where the Scottish ministers propose to make regulations to amend the powers or duties of the commission. Amendment 448 will expand the functions of the panel to include making recommendations to the Lord President regarding any of the Lord President’s functions under the bill. Amendments 445 and 447 are consequential.

I am happy to have worked with Maggie Chapman on amendments 539 and 540, which require the consumer panel to be adequately funded and resourced in order to effectively discharge its functions. The Scottish Government’s expectation is for the SLCC to have the capacity to fund the consumer panel’s extended remit as it deems appropriate, including the possibility of implementing an additional levy on the regulated profession. I therefore ask members to support all the amendments in the group.

I move amendment 312.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 28 January 2025

Siobhian Brown

The amendments in this group seek to amend the Solicitors (Scotland) Act 1980 to bring clarity to the Law Society’s role in the investigation of conduct and regulatory complaints.

Amendment 468, which relates to conduct complaints, will do a number of things. It makes the necessary consequential and procedural changes following the bill’s introduction of a new power to allow the Law Society to initiate conduct complaints and investigate them without being required to first remit them to the SLCC. It will provide the Law Society with powers when investigating and determining conduct complaints, such as the ability to propose or accept a settlement in respect of a complaint and the ability to discontinue an investigation or reinstate a discontinued investigation. The amendment will provide avenues of appeal to the SSDT and, subsequently, to the court on those decisions.

The amendment will provide measures that may be taken by the Law Society if it makes a determination upholding a conduct complaint. Those measures include censure and the imposition of a fine or of conditions on a solicitor’s practising certificate.

The amendment will also make the system for conduct complaints more efficient, saving time and resources. The Law Society currently investigates complaints about “unsatisfactory professional conduct”, while the most serious complaints of?“professional misconduct” are prosecuted before the SSDT. In cases?where the SSDT?is satisfied that the solicitor is not guilty of misconduct, it can decide that the solicitor is, however, guilty of the lesser matter of unsatisfactory professional conduct. In such cases, it is required to refer the complaint about UPC to the Law Society.? Amendment 468 will give the SSDT a new power to deal with complaints about unsatisfactory professional conduct that arise from an initial complaint of?professional misconduct.

Amendment 469 makes provision in respect of regulatory complaints and mirrors the conduct complaints provisions in amendment 468. It will introduce the ability for an authorised legal business or a licensed provider to appeal to the tribunal against a decision by the Law Society to uphold a regulatory complaint. The decision of the SSDT will also be appealable to the court.

It is important that the Law Society, in its role as a category 1 regulator, can consider and determine regulatory complaints without being overly prescriptive about how such complaints will be processed, and that should be provided for in the practice rules. Amendment 470 will therefore require the?Law Society to make rules about the procedures for making decisions in relation to complaints. Those rules must have the approval of the Law Society and they will not have effect unless they are approved by the Lord President.

Amendment 472 will make related modifications to the 1980 act, including requiring the Law Society to consult the commission before making any rule relating to the society’s functions under the 2007 act.

Amendment 478 will make consequential changes relating to conduct complaints to the Law Reform (Miscellaneous Provisions) (Scotland) Act 1990. Those changes mirror the changes that will be made to the 1980 act by amendment 468, in so far as they relate to conveyancing and executry practitioners.

I ask members to support the amendments in the group. I move amendment 468.