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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 13 July 2025
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COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 March 2022

Siobhian Brown

Thank you for those answers.

I want to bring in the other witnesses with my next question, which is on the connecting Scotland programme, the joint digital strategy between the Scottish Government and the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities that seeks to ensure that nobody is left behind and that people have access to the internet.

Let me give you an example. Several months ago, a constituent got in touch with me about digital exclusion. Unfortunately, she suffered a stroke seven years ago and is now registered blind. She likes to be self-reliant and pays privately for care, but she was becoming increasingly frustrated by being told to do everything online. When she wanted to do some shopping, when she tried to phone the council or when she wanted to book something, she was told to do it online instead, but, when she got in touch with me, she had no access to a computer or the internet. We have since been able to get her a talking laptop.

How do we ensure that people such as my constituent, who might not be on the radar of the council or social services, are not excluded and left behind? What can local authorities and other public bodies do to counter digital exclusion in the move to digital delivery? Are the affected bodies organised in the best way to achieve that, and do they have the necessary capacity and skills?

I know that that is a lot of questions in one. I will bring in Mairi Millar first.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 March 2022

Siobhian Brown

We have lost you. We have a bit of a technical issue.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Siobhian Brown

Brian Whittle has a question, after which we will move on to agenda item 3.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Siobhian Brown

Thank you, Deputy First Minister.

I will ask the first question. With numbers still high in Scotland—the Cabinet Secretary for Health and Social Care told us that this week could be one of the worst weeks from the point of view of pressure on the NHS—and concerns being raised in relation to the reduction in funding for certain Covid-19-related studies and data collection exercises from the end of March, including the ZOE Covid symptom study and the SARS-CoV-2 immunity and reinfection evaluation, or SIREN, and Vivaldi studies, which monitor infections in health workers and in care homes, Dr Stephen Griffin, who is a virologist at the University of Leeds, said that the decisions by the UK Government on Covid surveillance would

“slow the country’s ability to respond and adjust to future waves or surges of infection”

or new variants.

Deputy First Minister, do you feel comfortable with the UK Government’s current approach?

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Siobhian Brown

The result of the division is: For 4, Against 2, Abstentions 0.

Motions agreed to.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Siobhian Brown

That concludes consideration of the motions. The committee will, in due course, publish a report to the Parliament, setting out its decision on the statutory instruments that were considered at the meeting.

That concludes our consideration of this agenda item and our time with the Deputy First Minister. I thank him and his supporting officials for attending, and I suspend the meeting to allow the witnesses to leave.

11:29 Meeting suspended.  

11:30 On resuming—  

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Siobhian Brown

Are members content for the motions on the agenda to be moved en bloc, with the set of the three extension regulations that relate to the UK and Scottish coronavirus acts taken together, followed by the remaining two instruments?

Members indicated agreement.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Siobhian Brown

Thank you—I would appreciate that.

10:30  

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Excess Deaths Inquiry

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Siobhian Brown

I am conscious that the cabinet secretary has to leave at 10:15, but I will bring in Murdo Fraser, followed by Alex Rowley.

COVID-19 Recovery Committee

Ministerial Statement and Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 17 March 2022

Siobhian Brown

I welcome the Deputy First Minister and his supporting officials, Professor Jason Leitch, the national clinical director; Greig Walker, the Coronavirus (Recovery and Reform) (Scotland) Bill team leader; Elizabeth Blair, the unit head for Covid co-ordination; and Stewart Cunningham, a Scottish Government lawyer, who joins us online.

As members will have seen, following the First Minister’s statement on Tuesday, the Minister for Parliamentary Business has written to the committee. In his letter, the minister explains which legislation the Scottish Government is revoking in the light of the statement. I draw the letter to members’ attention, as those changes affect the secondary legislation on our agenda.

I invite the Deputy First Minister to make some brief opening remarks before we move to questions.