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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 22 August 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Neil Gray

Are there any colleagues in the virtual room with any information or input on that question?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Neil Gray

I can see that Bill Scott concurs with that.

Craig Smith, Frank McKillop, Keith Park, Trisha Hatt and Bill Scott, I thank you all for your time. Yours was insightful evidence that is helpful to our work on ADP. I wish you all a very merry Christmas.

That concludes the public part of this morning’s meeting. Next week, the committee will take evidence on the budget. I invite members to join the private session via the link provided.

11:18 Meeting continued in private until 11:41.  

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Neil Gray

Conscious as I am of time, my final question is an area that we have not covered as yet. It is first for Richard Gass and it is about short-term assistance. The Scottish Fiscal Commission has made an assumption—with many caveats, it has to be said—that as many as 90 per cent of people in receipt of ADP could be accessing short-term assistance. Is that assuming that the changed assessment process in Scotland will continue to make the same award mistakes as the DWP makes with PIP? Do you share those concerns?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Neil Gray

Ed Pybus finally, please.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Neil Gray

I am pleased to say that we are joined by our second panel of witnesses. We have with us Craig Smith, senior policy and research officer for the Scottish Association for Mental Health; Frank McKillop, head of policy and research at Enable Scotland; Keith Park, policy, public affairs and campaigns manager at the MS Society Scotland; Trisha Hatt, Macmillan Cancer Support strategic partnership manager; and Bill Scott, senior policy adviser at Inclusion Scotland. Welcome to you all. We are very grateful for your presence.

We will turn immediately to questions, the first of which is from Jeremy Balfour.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Neil Gray

Richard, I presume that that applies to people being transferred to universal credit, as well as to PIP?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Neil Gray

Would you like to direct that question to any particular members of the panel, Marie?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Neil Gray

Lovely. Ed Pybus, Richard Gass and Judith Paterson, I appreciate your time. Your input has been invaluable as we go through the process of scrutinising the implementation of ADP. It is greatly appreciated. No doubt we will be back in touch again but, in the meantime, I wish you all a merry Christmas.

I suspend briefly to change over the panel of witnesses.

10:10 Meeting suspended.  

10:12 On resuming—  

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Decision on Taking Business in Private

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Neil Gray

Welcome to the 14th meeting in 2021 of the Social Justice and Social Security Committee. Apologies have been received from Natalie Don, and I am pleased to say that Evelyn Tweed is attending as her substitute.

Our first item of business today is a decision on whether to take items 3, 4 and 5 in private. Are we agreed?

Members indicated agreement.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Adult Disability Payment

Meeting date: 16 December 2021

Neil Gray

Do any colleagues want to come in on Mr Briggs’s question? I cannot see an R in the chat box.