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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 2 November 2025
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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Neil Gray

As I said, making sure that we take communities with us as far as we can is incredibly important. Where we have energy generation infrastructure going in, we have a very clear and high bar of expectation on community benefit. I am keen that we are as creative as we can be to make that community benefit go as far as possible, to make sure that there are economic development opportunities and the social infrastructure that potentially comes from that. I hope that we can get to a place soon where that is possible with transmission infrastructure as well, so that we ensure that demonstrable community benefit can be realised from those developments.

We also have to take into account the incredible economic opportunity that comes from the substantial investment in our grid infrastructure that will be required. A substantial number of jobs will be required to build the infrastructure, and, again, similar to the strategy that we are taking for our energy generation, we want to make sure that we have a supply chain based here in Scotland to ensure that there is maximum economic benefit.

To answer directly your question on whether we can ask industry to do more to provide as much information as early as possible, obviously we already do that. You are right to say that industry is pretty well aware of what will be required. Trying to get that more into the public consciousness and having a greater understanding of why that is required will be incredibly important. The majority of the infrastructure will be required to ensure that we realise our ScotWind potential and take the huge energy potential that is lying particularly off the north coast and move that down south. We need to make sure, as I said, that we take communities with us on that journey.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Neil Gray

I appreciate Mr Lumsden’s question. I am pleased that we have taken another step forward, but it is one step, and I think that Mr Lumsden would accept that, until we have further clarity on which emitters will be included, and a timescale, it will be difficult for full progress to be made.

We interact with the UK Government. There have been a number of meetings on the matter at official and ministerial level, and we are, as you would expect—and, I hope, support—trying to push UK colleagues to go as fast as possible to ensure that such decisions are taken to give certainty and to help to unlock the Scottish Government funding, because we cannot spend the £80 million until we know which emitters will be included and where we will be able to add maximum value.

We want the UK Government to go much faster. Industry does as well, and that is a very strong call from industry, which is clear that further delay absolutely risks our ability in Scotland and that of the UK Government to meet our net zero targets. Carbon capture, as Mr Lumsden will be aware, plays an incredibly important role in that.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Neil Gray

The £80 million is there and is committed for carbon capture when the decision is taken and when we know where we will be able to add the greatest value. That can happen only when there is certainty about which emitters will be included in the project.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Neil Gray

We have already set out some of the funds that support that and the important part that carbon capture will play in that regard, and we will ensure that continued progress is made in sectors that are going through a decarbonisation process—I am thinking of the likes of Mossmorran and Grangemouth. The funds that Mr Lumsden mentioned, on which Nick Young and Kersti Berge have given more information, are our key focus.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Neil Gray

Thank you, convener. You are right—it is important that we speak with as much clarity as possible for people.

Obviously, the Scottish National Investment Bank has a key role to play in our reaching net zero. It is independent of Government, but it has been tasked with a goal. One of its priority areas is net zero and ensuring that the investments that it makes support us in that journey. It has resources to utilise to ensure that it supports projects that can help us with a just energy transition. I meet and engage regularly with SNIB to ensure that it updates me on progress and on the work that it is doing. I have also been at a number of events where I have seen how it is supporting organisations already.

SNIB’s investment proposition will be important, as will private capital. We know that it will not be possible for public finance alone to help us in this journey. We will not be able to realise our renewable energy potential or our decarbonisation responsibilities without the support of private capital. Ensuring that there continue to be investable propositions is part of my responsibility, working alongside other colleagues in the Government. We continue to engage with the likes of SNIB and the First Minister’s investor panel so that we do everything that we can to ensure that our energy and decarbonisation plans are all as attractive as possible in order to get maximum response and meet our 2045 target.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Neil Gray

It is always best to keep us all above board, convener.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Neil Gray

With due respect, convener, I gave that answer. Mr Tydeman will give the committee an update, and that has to be based on decisions that are still to be taken by the MCA on whether the mitigations that will be taken on the design of the ferry will be appropriate for the MCA to pass those ferries as safe to operate. Those discussions are on-going, which is why I cannot give a date.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Scottish Government Priorities

Meeting date: 12 September 2023

Neil Gray

I say with respect that the discussions with the MCA are still on-going. That is why I am ensuring that Mr Tydeman has the opportunity to give the committee and me the update on the conclusion of discussions with the MCA, which I hope will be a positive conclusion. I cannot give an update until those discussions are concluded. I think that that is pretty clear.

Public Audit Committee

Written Authority: Completion of Vessel 802

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

Neil Gray

No. That decision was taken by me and Gregor Irwin.

Public Audit Committee

Written Authority: Completion of Vessel 802

Meeting date: 22 June 2023

Neil Gray

That decision was taken first of all by the director general, and I was asked to confirm it, and so I confirmed that that was the appropriate action to take.