The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.
The Official Report search offers lots of different ways to find the information you’re looking for. The search is used as a professional tool by researchers and third-party organisations. It is also used by members of the public who may have less parliamentary awareness. This means it needs to provide the ability to run complex searches, and the ability to browse reports or perform a simple keyword search.
The web version of the Official Report has three different views:
Depending on the kind of search you want to do, one of these views will be the best option. The default view is to show the report for each meeting of Parliament or a committee. For a simple keyword search, the results will be shown by item of business.
When you choose to search by a particular MSP, the results returned will show each spoken contribution in Parliament or a committee, ordered by date with the most recent contributions first. This will usually return a lot of results, but you can refine your search by keyword, date and/or by meeting (committee or Chamber business).
We’ve chosen to display the entirety of each MSP’s contribution in the search results. This is intended to reduce the number of times that users need to click into an actual report to get the information that they’re looking for, but in some cases it can lead to very short contributions (“Yes.”) or very long ones (Ministerial statements, for example.) We’ll keep this under review and get feedback from users on whether this approach best meets their needs.
There are two types of keyword search:
If you select an MSP’s name from the dropdown menu, and add a phrase in quotation marks to the keyword field, then the search will return only examples of when the MSP said those exact words. You can further refine this search by adding a date range or selecting a particular committee or Meeting of the Parliament.
It’s also possible to run basic Boolean searches. For example:
There are two ways of searching by date.
You can either use the Start date and End date options to run a search across a particular date range. For example, you may know that a particular subject was discussed at some point in the last few weeks and choose a date range to reflect that.
Alternatively, you can use one of the pre-defined date ranges under “Select a time period”. These are:
If you search by an individual session, the list of MSPs and committees will automatically update to show only the MSPs and committees which were current during that session. For example, if you select Session 1 you will be show a list of MSPs and committees from Session 1.
If you add a custom date range which crosses more than one session of Parliament, the lists of MSPs and committees will update to show the information that was current at that time.
All Official Reports of meetings in the Debating Chamber of the Scottish Parliament.
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Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 22 June 2023
Neil Gray
To be clear, I do not think that that characterises the director-general’s statement appropriately. We considered whether anything could be released, and it was decided that the report and its contents were commercially sensitive and that releasing the report would put the competitiveness of the yard at risk, so it would not be appropriate for us to release it.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 22 June 2023
Neil Gray
Yes, I requested access to it to ensure that I was fully informed about the work that had been undertaken and to ensure that I was confident that it was a robust assessment of the costs and that the value-for-money assessment was robust and accurate. However, I stress again that that is a relatively narrow value-for-money assessment that does not take into account the wider considerations that I must take into account, as a minister, including the delay for island communities and the future of the yard, the workforce and the local economy in Inverclyde.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 22 June 2023
Neil Gray
Yes.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 22 June 2023
Neil Gray
A decision was taken in the Government, jointly by officials and ministers, that the commercial sensitivity of that information meant that it would not be appropriate to release the report. There is nothing in it to hide. There is no issue with the numbers—that is not the problem. The problem is the commercial sensitivity of the report and the fact that that report is the intellectual property of Teneo. That makes it difficult for us to release it. We do not want to put the competitiveness of the yard at risk. I think that you alluded to that, yourself, convener, in your letter. However, to put that in the public domain absolutely would put the competitiveness of the yard at risk and jeopardise its future.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 22 June 2023
Neil Gray
I am happy to provide the full timeline of events in writing to ensure that I get the exact dates. The process that was undertaken led to the decision being taken on 14 May, when I gave the written authority. I was before Parliament on 16 May to ensure that I was informing it at the earliest possible opportunity, holding myself accountable to colleagues for the fact that I had taken that decision. I have a full list of the dates that run up to the decision, which I am happy to provide in writing so that the committee can see them.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 22 June 2023
Neil Gray
It has been acknowledged by the committee that we proactively released and published more than 200 documents on the Government’s website in relation to the on-going process at Ferguson’s. We have offered ourselves—Gregor Irwin has been before the committee, and I, as cabinet secretary, and Mr Cook and Ms Hall are here today—and we have published as much as we can without putting the yard at a competitive disadvantage. We are going as far as we can to be transparent and to let people understand the decisions that we are taking and why we are taking them.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 22 June 2023
Neil Gray
The narrow value-for-money case that I describe is in the direct comparison between completing vessel 802 and procuring elsewhere, with elements of economic consideration being part of that. In his letter to the convener and to me, Gregor Irwin sets out some of the uncertainty that there is within the market. The cost comparison meant that, in the value-for-money assessment that he has to carry out as an accountable officer, he was not able to conclude with confidence that there was a value-for-money case for completing vessel 802 at the yard.
The consideration that I feel that I am duty bound to take is much wider. It includes the cost to the islanders of a further delay in the vessels. We already know that our island communities have suffered significant disruption. As somebody who was born and brought up on an island, I know how difficult a time people in the islands will have been having, so I am acutely aware of the need to deliver the vessels as quickly as possible. That was at the forefront of my consideration.
Alongside that, there is also the consideration of the future of the yard. The narrow value-for-money assessment is neutral on whether the future of the yard rests on vessel 802 being completed at Ferguson’s or procured elsewhere. I felt duty bound not to consider that neutrally because I felt that, if vessel 802 was not completed at the yard, it would have been put at risk. That was part of my consideration, along with the workforce and the contribution that the yard makes to the local economy. I have heard directly from like likes of Stuart McMillan and Ronnie Cowan about their experience in the local community and about the discussions that they have with those from local businesses, who told them that, without the economic contribution that the yard makes, their businesses would not be viable.
I have to make a wider consideration that goes beyond what has been described as the narrow assessment, which is about the cost to complete at the yard versus reprocuring elsewhere and also elements of economic consideration beyond that. What I have to consider goes much wider, and that is why I made the decision that I did.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 22 June 2023
Neil Gray
To be clear—I hope that I am not putting words in Mr Irwin’s mouth—I do not think that that was a decision that was requested because there was advice against proceeding in that direction from colleagues in the Government. The decision was made because Mr Irwin could not be satisfied, based on the economic uncertainty, inflation, the other elements of information that were available and the direct cost comparison between completing and procuring elsewhere, on that narrow value-for-money element.
Mr Irwin was satisfied on the other two elements—on the appropriateness of our proceeding—and I think that that has been set out to the committee. However, no, we are not able to release the report, as I have said. We hold very dear the future of the yard, and we want to ensure that that is protected, as I am sure that you understand, convener.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 22 June 2023
Neil Gray
We have to publish them. The Scottish public finance manual sets out how the accountable officer must go through that process. I believe that the previous written authority was in 2007, but there have been numerous such decisions at a UK Government level during that time. I am happy to furnish the committee with more details in my correspondence with the convener on the timeline, which I spoke about earlier.
Such decisions are a rare occurrence in Scotland. I am pleased that that is the case, and I hope that they will not be required routinely, as they are elsewhere. Given that they are so rare, I understand the committee’s interest in how the written authority came about, which is why I am more than happy to be here today and to provide as much information as I can about the process that was gone through to arrive at that decision, so that the committee can have confidence in that regard.
Public Audit Committee
Meeting date: 22 June 2023
Neil Gray
No.