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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 24 October 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 31 January 2024

Neil Gray

I thank Murdo Fraser for pointing out the difference that is made by our tax decisions in Scotland—tax decisions that he has opposed. Our block grant has been cut in real terms by the UK Government, so we are having to take decisions in Scotland to try to ameliorate the impact that austerity has had. Our budget is therefore up in real terms, but only because of the tax decisions that we have taken.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Neil Gray

The advisory board is still being worked on, and there will be an update in due course.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Neil Gray

Again, I am happy to provide that in writing to the convener after the meeting.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Neil Gray

I think that I said it all earlier. [Laughter.]

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Neil Gray

I appreciate Mr Macpherson’s question. For clarity, our commitment to halving the consenting time is for onshore wind projects; it is part of the onshore wind sector deal. Although we cannot mandate developers in that area, we have an agreement from them to consult communities at an earlier stage in developments and to propose commitments on community benefit that are both generous and more strategic in the way that such benefit will be derived.

In return, we are considering how we might halve the consenting time for onshore wind projects. That is an important distinction because, from planning and consenting perspectives, wind energy development is clearly at a far more advanced stage. Developers, planning officials and representatives of the regulated bodies are far better versed in those processes than is the case for those for offshore wind or other marine energy projects.

I am also aware that, alongside access to grid, which is probably the greatest barrier to investment that we face on offshore renewables, consenting and providing as much certainty as possible are among the industry’s greatest asks. We are considering what we can do in that space to streamline the process, while balancing the need to take environmental considerations seriously.

I turn to what we are doing through the budget to ensure that planning authorities are able to deal with those processes. In her budget statement, the Deputy First Minister made reference to our looking to work with industry to improve the available support for planning authorities. We are giving early consideration to how we might move forward with planning processes in general—not just for renewables, but for all projects—and with supporting local authorities on those.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Neil Gray

I believe that that is considered. I am not entirely familiar with how that is set up, but I will be happy—alongside colleagues—to come back to Mr Doris, to ensure that he has clarity on the question.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Neil Gray

I do not have a figure in my head. The likes of SNIB, Scottish Enterprise and other investors have to consider that, and some have stringent targets for it. I would be happy to give a more considered view in writing as part of the further information that I committed to send in the previous evidence session.

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Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Neil Gray

Mr Doris is absolutely right. That is precisely one of the reasons why I am so interested in what the Deputy First Minister has committed us to looking at in terms of support for the planning functions that local authorities are responsible for. Some local authorities will have to deal with large, complex planning applications—in some cases in energy, and in some cases in the infrastructure space. I am looking at what might be possible in order to support planning authorities in that space.

There is no direct commitment as yet. What might be possible is part of a current discussion and consultation phase. However, I am very cognisant, as the Government is, of the need to ensure that we are providing as much certainty as possible to potential investors, whether in the energy space or otherwise. We also need to ensure that our planning processes are fit for that work and are able to deal with it—not just in terms of national planning framework 4, but also from a resource perspective. I hope that we will have more detail on that as those considerations continue.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Neil Gray

I expect that Mr Ruskell is correct. I would need to go away and check for an update with regard to where we are now versus where the draft was in relation to the proportion of our 2030 target that is in train, in the planning process or in delivery. I am happy to look at whether there is an updated figure on the proportions.

Mr Ruskell’s assessment of the importance of the onshore wind sector deal is also correct. Industry has welcomed it. It is important not only for industry and the development of onshore wind, but for communities, so that we see demonstrable benefit and that people have a voice on those projects.

In spite of the fact that we do not have the power to enforce it on developers, the onshore wind sector deal commits the industry to consulting with communities where there is going to be an application at a much earlier stage. That means that there can be potential mitigations or changes to the way that the layout of the application comes forward, so that it answers community need. Critically, it also commits the industry to the Scottish standard on community benefit, which is £5,000 per megawatt generated. Again, we cannot mandate that, but industry is committed to that and it is an important leading principle.

We will work with industry, through the Scottish offshore wind energy council and the various bodies, to ensure that community benefit is strategically deployed so that we see the maximum economic regeneration and development coming from that finance, in order that communities that have energy and infrastructure on their doorstep can see demonstrable impact from that.

I declare an interest on that front, as there are substantial wind energy projects in and surrounding the community in Airdrie and Shotts, which I represent. I can already see some of the flow of money coming through from that and the community having a real agency over how that is deployed, which is incredibly welcome and is what we need.

Net Zero, Energy and Transport Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2024-25

Meeting date: 23 January 2024

Neil Gray

No, I did not say that. There is still an opportunity during this parliamentary session for hydrogen investment and for the hydrogen fund to be there. For this particular budget, however, I have not been able to prioritise money against that budget line. That is because I have chosen to prioritise ensuring that we kick-start the £500 million offshore wind supply chain commitment that the First Minister made. I prioritised that partly because I believe that it will help to catalyse hydrogen projects and also because there are other routes by which we can see continued hydrogen innovation happen; the hydrogen innovation scheme and the Scottish industrial energy transformation fund are two examples of that.