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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 December 2025
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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Paul McLennan

I welcome the witnesses to the meeting.

I want to ask about some of the specifics. My question is kind of in three parts. The bill requires a school to inform a child if their parent asks for them to be withdrawn from religious observance or RME. When that request has been made, the child is given an opportunity to express their views and the school has to seek a discussion with the child and parent. I would like to hear your thoughts on that and on the fact that a school must respect the child’s wishes, even if their view differs from that of their parent.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Paul McLennan

Does anyone else want to come in?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Paul McLennan

I want to move on to something a bit more specific. It is a three-part question. I do not know whether you heard the questions that I asked the previous panel, but it will be similar to those. It is about the requirement for schools to inform a child if the parent asks for them to be withdrawn from RO or RME. When a request has been made, the child is given an opportunity to express their views. The school must seek a discussion with the child and parent, and the school must respect the child’s wishes if their view differs from that of their parents.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Paul McLennan

Alejandro Sanchez, what are your thoughts?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Paul McLennan

Does anyone else want to come in on that particular point?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Paul McLennan

Does Dr Hill or Rachel Fox want to come in on that point?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Paul McLennan

I think that we touched on this issue already, and it is probably more of an exception. We talked about the proposal that the Scottish Government have more of an exemption to the compatibility duty. I think we have addressed that, so if there are no other comments, I will pass on that point. I think that we have gone on about the UNCRC and witnesses’ thoughts on the compatibility duty, and their thoughts on that are very clear. I do not know whether anybody wants to add anything about part 2 at this stage. I think that Angela O’Hagan is right that we have crossed over part 1 and part 2.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee

Children (Withdrawal from Religious Education and Amendment of UNCRC Compatibility Duty) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 30 September 2025

Paul McLennan

If there are no other comments, convener, I am—

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Paul McLennan

I will just come in on that point, because it is important. I remember meeting with an organisation in my constituency; there were parents there with children who had gone through that experience. Those children are now in their 20s or 30s, and the trauma is still there. We talk about the need for the bill—the trauma is still there 10, 15 or 20 years later, for a lot of the parents and obviously for the children themselves. That is a really important point.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 24 September 2025

Paul McLennan

Sarah Leitch?