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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Paul McLennan

I do not know whether anyone else wants to address that point, which is an important one.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Paul McLennan

How can the Scottish Government ensure that the provisions have a positive impact on care-experienced people, and how do you suggest that work to decide on the definition should be progressed? Like George Adam, I was a councillor for 15 years, and as an MSP, I have met care-experienced youngsters and those going through transition. There is a real issue around what support they have and how much they are listened to as care-experienced people. Some of them have been in the system for a year, some have been in the system for five or 10 years, but they gave strong feedback that they are not being listened to more broadly.

You mentioned earlier broadening out the definition of care. From your experience, what lessons can be learned, and what are your views?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Paul McLennan

Jo Derrick, what are your thoughts on the aftercare point that Duncan Dunlop has just made? I asked also about the definition of care experience, but the aftercare point is also really important. I know that we have had previous discussions about that, but what are your thoughts on the bill and on that point?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Paul McLennan

That is a really important point, and it goes right through this issue. Natalie, do you want to add anything?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Paul McLennan

Jo, do you have any views on the point about the UNCRC in the context of aftercare?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Paul McLennan

Margaret Smith, in previous meetings, we have heard about the role of advocacy and about whether it should be independent. We see people who are care experienced going on to be advocates for people who are entering or coming out of the system.

What are your thoughts are on that point? I think that it is very relevant. Like George Adam, I was a councillor for 15 years, so I have seen that role close up. What are your thoughts on that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Paul McLennan

I mean your thoughts about how that can follow on from the care experience, because there are not many better advocates or people to assist than those who have been through the system themselves.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Paul McLennan

If no one else wants to come in on that point, I will hand back to the convener.

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Paul McLennan

Submissions to the committee have called for clarity around proposals for guidance on care experience. Are the proposals effective enough? The Promise Scotland and the Children and Young People’s Commissioner raised concerns about the privacy of care-experienced people in relation to the proposal. You mentioned the number of care-experienced people you have supported, and the issue is also relevant to my professional background and that of some of my colleagues. What are your thoughts on the issue, and how might the proposals be improved?

Education, Children and Young People Committee

Children (Care, Care Experience and Services Planning) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 17 September 2025

Paul McLennan

Do you think that the regulations should be set out in the bill?