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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 May 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Paul McLennan

In committee discussions, we were keen to ensure that there was on-going monitoring throughout the 10 years.

You mentioned resources. Is that an issue from the point of view of HOPS? A key thing that my local authority has mentioned has been additional training. For example, local authorities will need to try to pick up carbon measurement. There will be additional training but no additional resource for that. That issue has been raised. I take it that you and Robbie Calvert would like to see resources measured over a number of years. Are there any other specific things that HOPS would like this committee to look at from your perspective as heads of planning, including broader measurements?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Paul McLennan

I appreciate that.

Robbie Calvert, you and I have had previous discussions about recruitment, resources and so on. Do you want to add anything about the delivery programme, the advisory group and the key measurements that you want to see?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Paul McLennan

I have one question. Policy 27 and out-of-town developments have been raised a few times. I seek clarity from both developers. What is your interpretation? Is there enough clarity in relation to out-of-town developments and where the balance lies? We have had representations from quite a number of bodies in that regard. What are your thoughts on that? I will start with Jim Miller.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Paul McLennan

The key thing is that it is an iterative process, as has been mentioned. We need to ensure that NPF4 is a living document throughout the next 10 years—even in the next six months to a year. Those answers have been helpful.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Paul McLennan

Will you comment on broader issues with the delivery programme and the indicators that you would like to see?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Paul McLennan

Are there any other indicators that you would like to see? Quite a few have been mentioned already.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Paul McLennan

Issues have been raised with the committee around whether there is enough flexibility with regard to local situations. Out-of-town development might depend on what the local situation is.

Jim Miller, from a planner’s point of view, is there enough flexibility in the policy? It is not the case that one size fits all for out-of-town developments. Is there enough flexibility in the system to take account of individual concerns?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Paul McLennan

Okay; thank you.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Paul McLennan

I will ask the same questions as I asked the previous two panels. They are to get your views on the delivery programme that accompanies NPF4, and includes the establishment of the planning, infrastructure and place advisory group. One of the key things that we are keen to focus on is monitoring of the effects of NPF4. What indicators would you like to be part of that, Professor Hague?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 22 November 2022

Paul McLennan

Our challenge is to monitor the things that you have suggested and to go deeper, beyond them. That is the role of this committee. That has been very helpful, so thank you.