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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 14 May 2025
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Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Paul McLennan

Professor Roy, I want to bring you back to the point that you made at the start of the meeting about the fiscal framework. I am interested in your thoughts on the fiscal framework. Part of the issue relates to the complexity of the existing fiscal framework, and I know that there are on-going discussions between the Scottish Government and the UK Government on the matter. What are the commission’s asks from those discussions? Given what you said about part of the issue being about the fiscal framework, what would make your life simpler in relation to your work? What are your asks? Obviously, there is a lot for the UK Government and the Scottish Government to discuss in relation to social security and so on, but what changes to the fiscal framework would make things easier for you?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2023-24

Meeting date: 22 December 2022

Paul McLennan

I have raised that issue with the committee, as other members know. It is very interesting and heartening to hear that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Scottish Housing Regulator “Annual Report and Accounts 2021-22”

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Paul McLennan

Thank you, convener, and good morning.

I want to ask a bit more about SHR’s whistleblowing policy. I was contacted by an MSP colleague about a case, so I am interested to know what the procedure is if an allegation is made to you about an RSL. I understand that a full and independent investigation is conducted after an allegation. What is the process, and how many whistleblowing allegations have there been in the past two or three years?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Scottish Housing Regulator “Annual Report and Accounts 2021-22”

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Paul McLennan

I am not aware of the case; it is a general question.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Scottish Housing Regulator “Annual Report and Accounts 2021-22”

Meeting date: 20 December 2022

Paul McLennan

I will perhaps pick that up offline. Thank you.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Paul McLennan

Thanks, minister. For the sake of brevity, that is fine.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Paul McLennan

I have looked at my areas and I know that there will be an impact. The fact that the payment is automatic and goes to more people is important. Just a few weeks ago, we were talking about a fixed budget. We would, of course, like to pay out more, but we operate within a fixed budget. Only a few weeks ago, in budget scrutiny, the committee voted against additional borrowing powers that would have given us the opportunity to have demand-led services and put our money towards such payments. We need to look at it in that regard.

The key thing for me, as I have said, is that it will benefit 400,000 people compared with 185,000 people. Previously, £8.3 million was spent; now, £20 million will be spent. It is not a perfect scheme. It is part of an overall package. We must look at the overall causes of why energy costs in Scotland are so high. We need powers to deal with that in Scotland. I will support the legislation.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Paul McLennan

Sometimes, we have to take a wee step back from our discussions and look at the context. As opposed to 185,000 people, 400,000 people will get the benefit automatically. The estimated spend was £8.3 million and it is now £20 million. That is the first part of the context. We also have to look at the wider benefit context that has been mentioned. The payment that we are talking about today is part of it, and we mentioned the Scottish Government looking at the Scottish child payment and other benefits that are being brought forward. We also heard the DWP talking about pension tax credits, and I understand that between a quarter and a third of people who are entitled to pension tax credits do not claim them. Emma Roddick touched on energy costs. In energy-rich Scotland, we face some of the highest energy costs in the UK, if not in Europe. So, first and foremost, we need the powers to tackle that.

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Paul McLennan

Good morning, minister. I will keep the questions to what we concentrated on last week. You have mentioned the other schemes that are there to help people—those of the Scottish and UK Governments. How do we maximise the opportunity and ensure that people are aware of the winter heating payment and other benefits that are out there? The scheme was raised during the week to make people aware of it, but what can we do on an on-going basis?

Social Justice and Social Security Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 15 December 2022

Paul McLennan

If that is the case, do you support the Scottish Government and the Scottish Parliament having the powers to do that? Those powers are reserved not in this Parliament but down south.