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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 3 February 2026
Paul McLennan
No, but I wanted to make the point—
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
Paul McLennan
I will come to Melissa D’Ascenzio, because the key message that is coming through is that there is a lack of consultation with not just the students but the unions. Will you expand on that? We will probably come on to Dundee separately, but will you talk about the general principle?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
Paul McLennan
That question generates some food for thought for us all.
I want to take a slightly different tack. We had some feedback about organisations’ ability to implement the changes in the Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill. What are your views on the bill? What are the opportunities and risks? It is a separate issue from the one that we have been discussing, but it is important. I acknowledge that it only relatively recently passed stage 3, but what are your initial thoughts on it?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
Paul McLennan
I want to make a couple of observations on a point that John Mason and George Adam raised, and then I will move on to the Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill.
I will go back to the discussions on the Higher Education Governance (Scotland) Act 2016, which was meant to provide a more balanced approach. What we have heard all morning—I touched on this earlier—is that there is a lack of transparency from universities, a lack of governance and a lack of respect, which is one of the key things. You are asking for increased co-operation and more co-production. Melissa D’Ascenzio mentioned that people were being presented with a fait accompli and then asked for their views on it.
I am keen to hear brief thoughts on that. The aim of the 2016 act has obviously not been achieved, as here we are, 10 years later, looking at the same issues. Some of the issues—we will probably touch on the University of Dundee later—are indicative of the lack of transparency and co-production.
What are your brief thoughts on that? Has the 2016 act achieved its goals? That is a key learning point in relation to where we are now. I will put that to Sophia Woodman first and then open it up to the other witnesses. A clear message from all your evidence today is that there has been a lack of respect, transparency and consultation.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
Paul McLennan
There were concerns in the sector about implementation of the changes, especially at a time of financial uncertainty, and that they would put a bit more pressure on universities.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
Paul McLennan
I do not know whether there has been much discussion with the trade unions about the bill and its implications. Dan Cutts, do you want to comment on that? Was there enough discussion with you about the bill?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
Paul McLennan
That is really powerful.
Does Dan Cutts or Stewart Forrester want to add anything?
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
Paul McLennan
We have heard a really powerful message from all of you.
I want to move on.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
Paul McLennan
It is nothing specific; it was just general feedback. That is fine, though.
Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]
Meeting date: 28 January 2026
Paul McLennan
I think that Stewart Forrester started to touch on the point that I want to make. There is an element here to consider: is the issue with university management cultural or structural? What needs to change? We have heard from unions at all four universities that there are issues with senior management and mismanagement. Do the universities need culture change or structural change?
Sophia Woodman touched on having an influence and finding out more about things, so I am trying to understand where you think that the problem lies. Dundee is a case of its own, but I am interested in the specifics of how university management needs to change.