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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 6 November 2025
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Paul McLennan

The medium-term financial strategy does not go into that level of detail. What are your thoughts? Can you say more about how engagement with the Scottish Funding Council will work in the future?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Paul McLennan

That is a really good point, Tom. Thank you.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Paul McLennan

On that point, witnesses in the earlier evidence session spoke about the training requirements and whether local authorities look at one centre if they are dealing with kids who might be more susceptible to restraint or seclusion over that period of time. Or should that training or resource be spread out? Has the EIS discussed that?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Paul McLennan

I want to build a little bit on John Mason’s points about the medium-term financial strategy. The strategy says that the Government will focus on

“Supporting sustainable, inclusive, economic policies with the greatest potential to grow Scotland’s economy”.

You have already talked about the importance of that, minister, and I suppose that we have discussed some of the immediate issues, but for me, one of the key questions is how we maximise growth in Scotland’s colleges to match the growth in the economy. Will you say a little bit more about the medium-term financial strategy and how we tie up opportunities for economic growth with opportunities for growth in the colleges themselves? The SFC has told us that that is a particular issue, so what can we do to maximise opportunities in college courses and maximise income for the colleges?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Paul McLennan

That goes back to Jackie Dunbar’s point about the college in Aberdeen. There are 21 energy projects going on in East Lothian. Berwick bank, off the East Lothian coast, has just been consented and we have the Eastern Green Link in East Lothian itself. A number of projects were discussed at an energy conference that we had at the start of the week, where Edinburgh College was represented. We spoke about how funding follows regional funding. How does that regional funding create opportunities for economic growth?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Paul McLennan

Yes, but also more broadly in relation to what is already out there.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Paul McLennan

I am conscious of the time, but I have a couple of questions. One is about the consistency of policy frameworks across different children’s services, such as schools, care settings and childcare providers. We have touched on that. A few of you have mentioned views on the current guidance and the impact of moving to statutory guidance. I do not know who wants to comment on the policy and on statutory guidance—perhaps someone who has not said anything on that already. Again, I am conscious of the time, but perhaps someone would like to talk about those two issues.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Restraint and Seclusion in Schools (Scotland) Bill

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Paul McLennan

That is a very good point, which almost feeds into the discussion on training and how to monitor it.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Paul McLennan

I have a working example that builds on Willie Rennie’s point. On Monday, I held an energy conference in East Lothian that included Edinburgh College and companies that are investing all over East Lothian, including Scottish Power, SSE and Fred Olsen; we also had the Energy Skills Partnership. One key thing that we have been trying to do for years now is to make forecasts—indeed, Willie Rennie made a point about knowing where the demand for jobs will be—and some frustration was expressed at the conference at the forecasting of future demand.

How much do you work with bodies such as the Energy Skills Partnership to look at the demand across various parts of Scotland? Edinburgh College, which had representatives at the conference, would be relevant to that activity. What interactions are you having with the likes of the Energy Skills Partnership to identify skills and opportunities and to know what will be required almost a year in advance? Those jobs will become available, but it is important that the skills are prepared a year or two in advance. That was a real working example that we saw when we discussed these matters on Monday.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2026-27

Meeting date: 1 October 2025

Paul McLennan

Another key partner, as well as the colleges, is the local authority, through, for example, its East Lothian works programme. Does your work feed into that of local authorities? What part do they play, and how do you feed into it? There are fantastic training opportunities for kids in East Lothian, and it is important to maximise them. I am thinking, for example, of the £100 million investment that was made in a company called Had Fab and the 40 or 50 new apprenticeships that came out of that. It has been a game changer for lots of people. Where do local authorities come in?