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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 11 May 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Paul McLennan

I am sorry, but I will make another point.

One of the key things—which Mr Griffin knows about—is that I will be having discussions: I think that we have a note out to Mr Griffin, Mr Briggs and others about discussing the bill. When we talked about the Housing (Cladding Remediation) (Scotland) Bill, one of the key things for me was about making sure that it was as collaborative as possible. I really want to see that approach again. I will be talking to Mr Griffin, Mr Briggs and other party spokespeople about that. It will be about saying, “Okay, where do you see this going?”. Ultimately, the bill has to get through Parliament as well. It is about discussing it and trying to be as collaborative as possible.

I am happy to meet Mr Griffin and Mr Briggs. I think that there are already letters out and meetings planned within the next few weeks to discuss that. Again, that is open to any member who wants to discuss the bill with me; I am happy to discuss it with them.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Paul McLennan

It is a case of trying to strike a balance. I think that what is proposed puts an additional onus on landlords, but we also need to raise awareness of what is there for tenants. I mentioned the fact that, in a rent control area, landlords have to provide specified information to a tenant at the start of the tenancy. There is an onus on landlords to do that. We will continue to discuss that with tenants, but it is a case of striking a balance.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Paul McLennan

Of course. Obviously, those are discussions that I have in my day-to-day role and not just on the bill, but I appreciate your point.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Paul McLennan

My understanding is that the minister at that time would still be able to bring in rent controls if they wished to do so. However, such circumstances would be highly unlikely. As you said, you are talking about the situation just now, and we do not know how circumstances might change in time.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Paul McLennan

Can you ask that again, so that I am clear in my mind?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Paul McLennan

As I mentioned, a new deal for tenants is part of our wider strategy. A key thing from that is the learning from coronavirus. As has been talked about, we are committed to a review. I ask Catriona MacKean to come in on that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Paul McLennan

The tribunal is really important. I will touch on that in a wee second.

I will maybe bring in Charlotte McHaffie to talk about ethics. One key point is that the Scottish Courts and Tribunals Service is a separate body. Obviously, we have on-going discussions about case numbers, staffing numbers and costs, and we have raised concerns about the time that the process has been taking, but the service is a separate body and the tribunal is a judicial decision maker, so we cannot interfere in that. It is all about trying to strike the right balance. The tribunal sits on its own.

Charlotte might want to touch on whether the ethics point has been discussed. As Mr Coffey will know, there are discussions between officials and the tribunals service, but the tribunal sits separately. Charlotte—do you want to add anything?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Paul McLennan

Just before Craig comes in, I will say that one of the key things that the tribunal offers is a less adversarial approach. Such discussions can, by their nature, be tricky, as you can appreciate. We should recognise the work that the tribunal does, in which it tries to promote a less adversarial approach in what can be really difficult discussions.

I will bring in Craig McGuffie on the point that Charlotte McHaffie made.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Paul McLennan

I will bring in Charlotte McHaffie in a wee second. I am happy to pick that up later if there is further detail on that, or if there is a specific case. Charlotte might want to come in on that specific point, because we hear about that happening occasionally.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

Housing (Scotland) Bill: Stage 1

Meeting date: 10 September 2024

Paul McLennan

That is fine by me.