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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 4 February 2026
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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Cross-portfolio Session

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Paul McLennan

On that point about pathways, I have a niece and nephew who both went to college and then went on to university. The fact that they went via that particular route is really important, because, at the start, they did not see themselves going to university, but they now have their qualifications and have progressed. I just wanted to make that important point before the minister came in.

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Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Paul McLennan

I want to come back to the data issue. This question is probably for Iona Colvin. You probably heard the earlier questions to Alexis Jay regarding the current outlook on data collection. That was an important part of the earlier evidence session, and the committee has talked about it previously. What are your thoughts on the situation with data collection previously and where we go from here?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Cross-portfolio Session

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Paul McLennan

Building on that point, I should say that, a few days ago, Miles Briggs and I had a meeting with Who Cares? Scotland about the issue. When it comes to widening access, it is important that we do not lose sight of it.

My question for the panel is this: what more can we do to widen access and to give those who have not been able to go to university in the past the ability to do so now? That is a really important point that we cannot lose sight of. I do not know whether you want to come in on that, cabinet secretary, but, with regard to the budget, what broader plans do you have to ensure that we continue the good work that we are doing in that area?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Paul McLennan

I want to go back to the point about data, because I think it is important that the review is evidenced based. There are a couple of key things. First, you reflected on your experiences in England and Wales. Can you tell me what the role of the strategic group is in compiling the data and what you see as being the initial approach? I know that you have to speak to the group, but what are your initial thoughts about collecting data? You mentioned that that is the most important point at this stage.

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Professor Alexis Jay and the Cabinet Secretary for Justice and Home Affairs

Meeting date: 17 December 2025

Paul McLennan

Can you say a little bit more about local areas? That is one of the key things, in my view. If we are talking about taking a local approach, there will be slightly different aspects and different agencies involved. There will be the national agencies, but there will also be local agencies. Can you say a bit more about how you break down the local aspect?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Paul McLennan

The question is about taking up roles in the sectors. As you said, education seems to be one, but we are talking about 2 per cent of the population. I have spoken to constituents before about some of the issues they have with healthcare, for example, so I am interested in making sure that there is representation across all the sectors. Are we looking back and evaluating that, or could we consider doing that going forward?

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Paul McLennan

Good morning, Deputy First Minister. I have a couple of questions, and I am conscious of the time.

One question is on issues of data and disaggregating data, and I will come back to you for your thoughts on that one. One of the other key issues relates to education, health and justice. It was suggested that better support for BSL users would include people who encourage BSL users to take up roles in those areas. How can we encourage that to happen in the future? The issue is a little about the data, but probably more on encouraging BSL users into the roles where they can make a real impact.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Paul McLennan

It is not a major point, but I think it is important that we pick it up. If you could come back to us, that would be great.

Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee [Draft]

British Sign Language Inquiry

Meeting date: 9 December 2025

Paul McLennan

On the specific point of encouraging BSL users to take up the roles, do we monitor that at the moment, or is that something we can monitor or target? We can encourage it, but how do we evaluate that in five or 10 years’ time, if we are asking whether something has been raised? Are we making sure we are accomplishing that going forward?

Education, Children and Young People Committee [Draft]

Tertiary Education and Training (Funding and Governance) (Scotland) Bill: Stage 2

Meeting date: 3 December 2025

Paul McLennan

I will speak just to my amendment 36, which would amend the bill in relation to the provision for the SFC to appoint co-opted members. Amendment 36 is a small change that would make it clear that the terms and conditions on which co-opted members of the SFC are appointed would include any remuneration and allowances that they are to receive. I hope that the committee can support that clarification of the bill.