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Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2025
Paul McLennan
Thank you for that. Angela O’Hagan was nodding away there. Angela, do you want to add anything else on the UNCRC point and the general question?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2025
Paul McLennan
Rachel Fox, do you have anything to add on that?
Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee
Meeting date: 30 September 2025
Paul McLennan
That really strengthens the point that was made earlier on; you put across a very good point. I do not know whether anybody wants to add to that.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Paul McLennan
I will just come in on that point, because it is important. I remember meeting with an organisation in my constituency; there were parents there with children who had gone through that experience. Those children are now in their 20s or 30s, and the trauma is still there. We talk about the need for the bill—the trauma is still there 10, 15 or 20 years later, for a lot of the parents and obviously for the children themselves. That is a really important point.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Paul McLennan
Sarah Leitch?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Paul McLennan
Thank you, convener.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Paul McLennan
My apologies for being late, convener—I was stuck in an accident this morning.
Some of the debate has been around disabled pupils and pupils with complex needs, and those who are care experienced. Is the balance right in the bill, or should there be more specific guidance on specific aspects—for example, relating to those with care experience?
As members, we have probably all dealt with casework on these issues and heard parents talking about them. In your view, should there be specific guidance on the different areas where restraint and seclusion might be applicable?
I will come to Kate Sanger first, as I know that she has particular expertise in this area. Kate, what are your thoughts on that point?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Paul McLennan
I will go to Simon Webster next—I will come to Suzi Martin in a minute.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Paul McLennan
You have already kind of answered my next question, which Willie Rennie also touched on. What do you think of the current Government guidance? What do you think about having statutory guidance? Do you want to add anything to what was said when he asked about that? I think that Suzi answered the question, so I ask Kate and Simon where they think that the guidance should sit and whether they have anything else to add about guidance becoming statutory.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 24 September 2025
Paul McLennan
I will ask about the definition of a child. The definition in the bill is taken from the Education (Scotland) Act 1980, which is not the same as the definition in the UNCRC. The commissioner and others have suggested that the bill should mirror the UNCRC. What are the practical and legal impacts of those different definitions?
I have a second question, which is on an issue that we have touched on and which I will put to Nicola Killean first. What are the strengths and weaknesses of having statutory guidance rather than non-statutory guidance?