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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 4 July 2025
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Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee

Cross-Party Groups

Meeting date: 27 January 2022

Paul McLennan

I get that point. We are talking about grouse management and deer management. Those are predominantly but not exclusively for uplands management. There is an opportunity to consider lowland management. It is a good point to raise. If the CPG is approved, we can say at the next meeting that there is an issue with lowland management and ask whether we can discuss it.

A lot of the groups that are involved in the CPG will also be involved in lowland management. We have tried to include as diverse a range of groups as possible in the CPG membership. It is a relevant point to address. How do we define “uplands”? Where do lowlands become uplands and vice versa?

I visited Schiehallion a few months ago. People there were talking about that issue and asking about where the border was between uplands and lowlands for deer management. That was a specific issue, but the overall point is relevant and I will take it to the next discussion that the group has.

How do we define uplands management? Where does it stop? Does it have to take place above a certain height? There is no clear definition of what it is, but, when something becomes uplands management, it goes into issues that can prove to be controversial. Raptor protection is a relevant one. I am sure that we have all had correspondence on that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Paul McLennan

My next question is for Robbie Calvert, and then perhaps for the other witnesses. Some concern has been expressed about timescales for consulting on the draft NPF4, and I note that the Parliament and the Scottish Government are running concurrent consultations. Do you have any concerns about that? Are there any implications for stakeholders involved in the process?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Paul McLennan

Thank you. That is another issue for the committee to consider.

I want to move on to housing. The policy approach that is taken to housing in the draft NPF4 includes the minimum all-tenure housing land requirement. Will that result in the homes that people need being built where there is demand? I will go to Dr Brown first and, after that, I will see if anybody else wants to come in.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Paul McLennan

You will know that we have been discussing that topic in the committee for the past few weeks. Obviously, there are measures that local authorities can take.

Professor Hague or Professor Sparks, do you want to come in on that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Paul McLennan

That is certainly vital. Perhaps Clare Symonds can respond before I move on to my other question.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Paul McLennan

Is there a danger that, with all these studies and consultations going out together, there is no coherent strategy behind it all? Some policies could, for example, have an impact on others. Do we need to stand back a little bit, look at what needs to be done—and at what time it needs to be done—and see what the impact might be on other consultations? Is there any impact in that respect, or is it just a resource issue?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Paul McLennan

I refer everyone to my entry in the register of members’ interests, which states that I am a serving councillor on East Lothian Council.

We have heard a few people talking this morning about the resource implications for planning authorities. As colleagues have said, we were speaking to Celebrate Kilmarnock yesterday, and one of the things that came up in that discussion was resources for local groups that want to develop their ideas. The question is one of capacity building.

Perhaps Clare Symonds can respond to my first question, followed by Barbara Cummins. NPF4 might include policies to help communities and groups, but if they do not have the resources to implement the policies, we will get nowhere. What are the witnesses’ views on that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Paul McLennan

You will know with your Cockburn Association hat on the relevance of that approach in Edinburgh and, indeed, with lots of buildings.

Perhaps Dr Brown can give us her thoughts on this question, and then Professor Sparks can talk about this issue with regard to the development of our town centres, given the number of old historic buildings that might be involved in that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Paul McLennan

Professor Hague, I have a question about the policies in the draft NPF4 that are aimed at protecting our built heritage and about reaching the right balance between preservation and allowing essential action to reduce carbon emissions. Do you have any comments on that? What changes would you like to see in that regard?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Paul McLennan

Does anyone else want to come in?