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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 May 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Paul McLennan

Thank you. That is another issue for the committee to consider.

I want to move on to housing. The policy approach that is taken to housing in the draft NPF4 includes the minimum all-tenure housing land requirement. Will that result in the homes that people need being built where there is demand? I will go to Dr Brown first and, after that, I will see if anybody else wants to come in.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Paul McLennan

You will know that we have been discussing that topic in the committee for the past few weeks. Obviously, there are measures that local authorities can take.

Professor Hague or Professor Sparks, do you want to come in on that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Paul McLennan

That is certainly vital. Perhaps Clare Symonds can respond before I move on to my other question.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Paul McLennan

Is there a danger that, with all these studies and consultations going out together, there is no coherent strategy behind it all? Some policies could, for example, have an impact on others. Do we need to stand back a little bit, look at what needs to be done—and at what time it needs to be done—and see what the impact might be on other consultations? Is there any impact in that respect, or is it just a resource issue?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Paul McLennan

I refer everyone to my entry in the register of members’ interests, which states that I am a serving councillor on East Lothian Council.

We have heard a few people talking this morning about the resource implications for planning authorities. As colleagues have said, we were speaking to Celebrate Kilmarnock yesterday, and one of the things that came up in that discussion was resources for local groups that want to develop their ideas. The question is one of capacity building.

Perhaps Clare Symonds can respond to my first question, followed by Barbara Cummins. NPF4 might include policies to help communities and groups, but if they do not have the resources to implement the policies, we will get nowhere. What are the witnesses’ views on that?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Paul McLennan

You will know with your Cockburn Association hat on the relevance of that approach in Edinburgh and, indeed, with lots of buildings.

Perhaps Dr Brown can give us her thoughts on this question, and then Professor Sparks can talk about this issue with regard to the development of our town centres, given the number of old historic buildings that might be involved in that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Paul McLennan

Professor Hague, I have a question about the policies in the draft NPF4 that are aimed at protecting our built heritage and about reaching the right balance between preservation and allowing essential action to reduce carbon emissions. Do you have any comments on that? What changes would you like to see in that regard?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Paul McLennan

Does anyone else want to come in?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Paul McLennan

I know that Christina Gaiger wants to come in, but I have one more question for Barbara Cummins. More local authorities are looking at their LDP process on the back of NPF4. My own local authority undertakes good community consultation in that regard. What are the satisfaction levels in respect of how other local authorities engage with the LDP process in particular? That engagement is incredibly important. Is that element being looked at quite well across Scotland, or is there a mixed or unbalanced picture?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 25 January 2022

Paul McLennan

You are right to ask how overarching strategies come into NPF4 and how that sort of thing is interpreted. There will be a degree of flexibility in interpretation, with each local authority looking at these things differently. It is certainly an issue for the committee to grapple with.

Professor Sparks, do you want to come in on this question? As far as economic development in some of our cities is concerned, some old buildings might need to be upgraded, but there is also the impact of the essential actions that must be taken to reduce carbon emissions, which might make those buildings unviable. What are your thoughts in that respect?