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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 9 May 2025
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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 8 February 2022

Paul McLennan

I refer members to my entry in the register of members’ interests. I am a serving councillor on East Lothian Council.

I will expand on the convener’s points in the first couple of questions. My question is about the different sections of the national spatial strategy in the draft NPF4. In comments that we have had so far, there has been concern that those do not carry through to national planning policies and that there seems to be a disconnect. Do you share that concern? If so, do you have any examples? What would be the best way to try to make sure that there is connectivity? I will go to Pam Ewen first on that and then to Sarah Shaw.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 8 February 2022

Paul McLennan

Do the national planning policies need to be reviewed more broadly? Are they reviewed piece by piece—policy by policy? I know that we had the planning review just a couple of years ago but, as you said, connectivity is important because of what we are moving forward to. I ask Pam Ewen and the rest of the panel whether we need a much broader review or whether connectivity across the policy sphere can be ensured through policy-by-policy review.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 8 February 2022

Paul McLennan

I will bring in Sarah Shaw and then open the discussion to the floor.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 8 February 2022

Paul McLennan

That leads nicely on to my next two questions, the first of which was just touched on. Do local authority planning departments have sufficient suitably qualified staff and funding to deliver the desired NPF4 outcomes? I think that I know what the answer will be, and I can see the wry smiles from witnesses already, so there will probably be a few who want to respond. Also, how can we best attract people into the profession in the coming years?

I will go to Jane Tennant first, then to Steven Heddle, and then open it up to the others. Jane will be first, as she has been in the industry only in recent times.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

Paul McLennan

I think that Andrew Fyfe wants to come back on that.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

Paul McLennan

I want to explore the points that Nicola Barclay and Tony Aitken made about deliverability, which is key, and flexibility. Are mechanisms in place for local authorities and the Scottish Government to review delivery? We can produce a plan, but various things can happen—for example, there might be infrastructure issues, or demand might drop. Is there a requirement for a formal review to ensure that what was set out was delivered, given that, if we fall short, we will exacerbate the problems that we have been talking about?

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Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

Paul McLennan

Will you clarify how you got to that figure, so that we understand that? As you mentioned, it is important to understand what the demand is. This takes us back to Nicola Barclay’s point about the HNDA. We need to understand the demand and the need for extra housing with care. Will you give us a little bit of background on how you got to that figure?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

Paul McLennan

Yes. It is for Andrew Fyfe, who mentioned the delivery of housing to meet the needs of older and disabled people and touched on some of the issues with that. Are there any specific changes that you would like to see in NPF4 that you believe would help with that? I think that you are right, given that we have a growing elderly population. What changes would you like to see that would make it easier for local authorities to provide such housing and help us to meet our national targets?

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

Paul McLennan

Before I ask others to come in, convener, I should declare an interest as a serving councillor on East Lothian Council. I forgot to mention that at the start.

I see that Tony Cain would like to respond.

Local Government, Housing and Planning Committee

National Planning Framework 4

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

Paul McLennan

I think that the key thing is to make sure that we can do that. You are right that, from a council point of view, the key thing is how the Scottish Government ties into that and ensures that there is deliverability. We need to deliver—