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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 14 January 2026
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability Report)

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Michelle Thomson

That is very helpful. I totally appreciate the complexity. The issue is not just about trying not to make people depressed; your reports could easily become as long as “War and Peace”.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability Report)

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Michelle Thomson

Thank you for joining us. I have only a few questions.

First, you observed that your spending projections are based on current policies and do not take account of an additional main challenge—climate change. It would be useful to understand why your projections do not include any consideration of mitigations or adaptations. I am sure that there are several very good reasons for that. What would need to happen in order for you to give at least some consideration of climate change mitigation, given the significant anticipated public sector spend in that area?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Michelle Thomson

I notice that the Scottish Fiscal Commission has slightly rephrased its terminology, probably to recognise that critical dependency.

Let us return to the question that Craig Hoy asked about people having a better understanding of the Scottish Government’s cost base. Does the Government have an understanding of its cost base? To go back to the point that John Mason made earlier, it is politically unpalatable to reflect an understanding of that cost base, so it probably seems better to keep schtum. Are you just being kind by saying that the Government does not have an understanding of its cost base?

10:30  

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Michelle Thomson

Okay. I have a final question to finish off this topic. We have covered the gamut of all the various documents. It is incredibly complex and difficult to align all of those. We also have the UK spending review, as you correctly commented. Based on your experience thus far, how confident are you that, particularly with future projections in these really challenging times, things can be brought into line with the clarity and purpose that we are all seeking?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Fiscal Commission (Fiscal Sustainability Report)

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Michelle Thomson

I have a last wee question. The convener mentioned disability prevalence. Do you have any sense as to why there is that prevalence? The issue has come up in the committee previously, but the projected increase seems quite astounding.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Scottish Budget Process in Practice

Meeting date: 29 April 2025

Michelle Thomson

I agree. I ask that question because one of the challenges is the complexity of the fiscal framework. I try to explain it to people. They ask a straight question and I desperately try not to sound like a politician by saying, “It depends.” I then need to explain in a simple way why it depends, by which point I have inevitably lost them. I would like to hear your comments on that.

The Scottish Fiscal Commission is doing considerably more work now, and it is welcome to point out the issues with the UK’s fiscal sustainability. If you understand anything about the fiscal framework, you will understand that there is a critical dependency on the UK’s fiscal sustainability. What thought have you given to that? If you understand the fiscal framework and fiscal sustainability, you will understand that you cannot have one without the other. I appreciate that you provide the audit and that that is different—I get that—but I would like to hear some reflections on what consideration you are giving to the wider economic environment.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Michelle Thomson

To be clear, I am not seeking to have a pop at any of you; I am trying to understand how you see the skills system as currently structured in your industry and whether it positively encourages women. It is more of a generic question.

I see that Stevie Wilson wants to come in.

10:30  

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Michelle Thomson

I have one more question that I will roll in. This morning, we have all mentioned the rapid change driven by net zero and artificial intelligence. I would appreciate your reflections on what flexibility needs to be built into the system so that we are poised and ready. I appreciate that that is a massive area.

Doug, perhaps you can answer that and pick up on the earlier point.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Michelle Thomson

Good morning, and thank you for joining us. I want to pick up a thread that, I think, Tony Burns started on when he talked about underrepresented groups. In your industries, how can you target girls and women? What are your reflections on the skills system for them? If we are bringing in a the pairts, obviously, some of your industries tend to be male dominated, so I would appreciate your thoughts and reflections on that.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 23 April 2025

Michelle Thomson

What about you, Jennifer? Obviously, I appreciate that this is sometimes a function of scale.