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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 20 June 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Programme for Government (Priorities)

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Michelle Thomson

A couple of weeks ago, we had the Scottish National Investment Bank and Scottish Enterprise in front of the committee, and Michael Robertson from SNIB—I will just get the Official Report up—commented on the bank’s “perpetual status”. My colleague Murdo Fraser picked up on a question that I had asked the year before about how profit was dealt with under the UK Government budgeting manual. What is the cabinet secretary’s understanding of how the UK budgeting rules align specifically with the UK Government rather than the Scottish Government? The reason why I ask is that Michael Robertson said:

“Where we see potential for advancement within the Scottish rules is on flexibility, and potentially on multiyear investments”—[Official Report, Economy and Fair Work Committee, 25 September 2024; c 28.]

That question is slightly technical, but I wanted clarification of what the UK budget rules are and, therefore, of whether there is any flexibility.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Programme for Government (Priorities)

Meeting date: 9 October 2024

Michelle Thomson

I will be very quick, cabinet secretary. I would not be doing my job properly if I did not ask a little question about the refinery in Grangemouth, which is in my constituency. There has been a lot of talk thus far about opportunities and the work around project willow and so on. However, the cabinet secretary’s interest is in the economy, given her role. A report by Scottish Enterprise noted that the refinery contributed an estimated £403.6 million to the Scottish economy. PWC estimates that, rather than 400 related jobs that could go, there are nearly 3,000. The First Minister has stated that the closure will create a “significant economic shock”. Are we still focusing enough on the economic loss and shock, or is the balance skewed too far at this stage towards what the future might bring?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Proposed National Outcomes

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Michelle Thomson

Yes.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Michelle Thomson

According to the “Fiscal Framework Outturn Report: 2024”, there is still £398 million of capital headroom for the end of 2025-26. What are your intentions in that respect?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Michelle Thomson

I appreciate that. Are you applying rules to headroom, contingency or whatever you want to use? It would be useful for the committee to understand that, because, as you know, as a side issue, we are always looking for greater transparency, so it would be useful to—

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Michelle Thomson

Moving on, I will finish off the productivity theme. I know that the convener has already brought up research and development, which is very important, but housing is also arguably in there—the programme for government figures set that out. Given the impact on productivity—never mind child poverty, which is one of the Government’s key drivers—is the plan to restore in the budget the £200 million cut to housing?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Michelle Thomson

I have a couple more questions. What is the latest on Scottish bonds?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Michelle Thomson

My final, final question, convener, is one that I have asked before—

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Pre-budget Scrutiny 2025-26

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Michelle Thomson

Thank you, convener.

As you know, I have raised the ScotWind moneys before, both at the committee and in the chamber. I know that, if money can be salvaged for good purposes, it will be. However, the question that needs to be asked is, if that money ends up needing to be used this year, what assessment are you making of its not being available for subsequent years? That is obviously a concern as well.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Proposed National Outcomes

Meeting date: 8 October 2024

Michelle Thomson

Before your officials come in, I will build on that point a little. The root of the issue still lies with data collectors, in that we do not routinely collect disaggregated data. Indeed, in its response to the consultation, Engender noted the lack of such data.

When your officials come in, or when you give your final comments, I will be interested to hear where we are on ensuring that all data is representative and can be sliced and diced as appropriate. I realise that that is not always possible, but we should do so wherever we can. However, we are still not yet at the point where it is done routinely.