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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 10 August 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Michelle Thomson

When it comes to breaking all of this down, I am not clear how costs are collected, structurally speaking. For example, what are the set-up costs? Obviously, there will be accommodation costs, and I imagine that the convener’s or chair’s costs will be significant, too, but a significant amount will also be needed to support legal costs. It would be useful to get a sense of the quantum of that money.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Michelle Thomson

Funnily enough, you might have just pre-empted one of my questions. Obviously, none of us has the current figures, but it was suggested last September that the total cost of inquiries thus far was of the order of £200 million. Obviously, that was before the Eljamel inquiry had been agreed, but the child abuse inquiry came to £85 million; the Scottish hospitals inquiry, £19.2 million; the Covid inquiry, £26.1 million; and the Sheku Bayoh inquiry, £20.1 million.

Looking at this from the perspective of the efficiency of public spend, might you be concerned by calls for an increase in scope, such as that from the lawyer involved in the recent Sheku Bayoh inquiry, who might also be a significant beneficiary of the costs associated with any such increased scope? I ask the question because I wonder, within the scope of looking at how efficient these inquiries are, how those costs are being controlled.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Subordinate Legislation

Meeting date: 4 March 2025

Michelle Thomson

Thank you.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

New Deal for Business

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Michelle Thomson

Before everyone else comes in, I go back to the culture point. Do you detect a new sharpness of purpose in the new deal for business? I do not want to put words in your mouth, but that is what I mean about the culture: it has a new name, but it is largely the same activity.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

New Deal for Business

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Michelle Thomson

That is very helpful. I probably should have added risk appetite to my list, and zonal pricing is very topical.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

New Deal for Business

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Michelle Thomson

We have covered some of them. I want to hear from the other three witnesses on the specific question about the culture, what you notice is different and my supposition that it is sharper. Paul, do you want to come in?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

New Deal for Business

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Michelle Thomson

Could we hear from Claire Mack first? Then my supplementary will be for everybody.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

New Deal for Business

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Michelle Thomson

The convener makes a fair point in observing that three of you on the panel are actively engaging with the Scottish Government through your various roles. Where that is the case for the three of you, to what extent do you think that the Government gets business? By that, I mean the operating environment, the risks that you have to deal with, the necessity for cash flow and focusing on margins and so on. Some brief words on that would be useful.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

New Deal for Business

Meeting date: 26 February 2025

Michelle Thomson

I thank the witnesses for joining us. I want to tease out a slightly different reflection from you as a panel. You are our third panel, and all three have been very different. I am quite struck by your established public affairs work, ScotlandIS, which I have known about for years and years, from the old days.

Some of you have conceded that you joined the new deal for business slightly later. On the culture around which you can influence and shape Government policy through your dealings with civil servants, I am trying to establish the extent to which that feels like it is largely the same old, same old, under a new name. Who is brave enough to offer any reflections on whether that is the case? Karen Meechan is smiling, so you have to start.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

New Deal for Business

Meeting date: 19 February 2025

Michelle Thomson

And what is macroeconomic policy and what is microeconomic policy. The Scottish Government has no control over interest rates or employer national insurance contributions. Consumer prices index inflation has gone up today. The Scottish Government has no control over that. We do not even have a separate Scottish measure for it. That undoubtedly flows into business confidence. I am trying to get a sense of the extent to which that is understood.