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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 4 May 2021
  6. Current session: 13 May 2021 to 20 January 2026
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Tourism and Hospitality

Meeting date: 2 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

Good morning. I am aware of time, so I have just a couple of questions. First, with regard to the status of phase 1 projects, I am aware that two are at amber—destination net zero and the Scottish tourism observatory. Before I go on to another question, I want to get a sense of the current status and rationale and any further thoughts about those projects. That question goes to whoever is the most appropriate person to answer.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Tourism and Hospitality

Meeting date: 2 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

Finally, do you want to put anything else on the record in relation to your comment about there being no easy investment solutions? A lot of what we have seen has been exacerbated by the pandemic and, if you like, the flow of funds.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Tourism and Hospitality

Meeting date: 2 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

Do you have anything to add, Vicki? I know that Rob Dickson and I were focusing on capex and the inability to carry that forward, although I also know that you can carry forward revenue. Is there anything more that you want to say about investment before we move on? I am aware that time is of the essence.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Tourism and Hospitality

Meeting date: 2 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

Thank you for that, Marc, but before we move on, do you have hard data on women-led businesses, and do you routinely disaggregate that data in any surveys? I am heartened by the warm fuzzy feeling that I am getting from you, but data is everything.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Tourism and Hospitality

Meeting date: 2 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

It certainly does. Does Vicki Miller have anything to add to that?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Tourism and Hospitality

Meeting date: 2 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

Stephen and Leon, in no particular order, could you answer the same question?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Tourism and Hospitality

Meeting date: 2 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

Is it not the case that, given the high proportion of women in tourism and hospitality already, you are already well versed in some of the flexible working practices that have now been introduced in other sectors? After all, women often have to juggle multiple elements in their lives. Would that be true?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Tourism and Hospitality

Meeting date: 2 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

Thank you. Rob mentioned something about capital expenditure, which is the other area that I wanted to ask about. A comment in the minutes of STERG’s most recent meeting notes that the investment models have been challenging. You commented on the financial accountability rules and the fact that the Scottish Government cannot offer any flexibility. Is my understanding correct—that that is simply to do with the fact that the Scottish Government, according to the fiscal framework rules by which it is bound, cannot carry forward? In effect, by law, it is not in a position to offer flexibility. If that is correct, are you any further forward with that blocker around structuring investment models? That might follow on from what Rob Dickson was saying about capex.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Tourism and Hospitality

Meeting date: 2 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

Yes. What you have described is careful management of the limitations on that money, which, after all, cannot be carried forward. I would think that if you were running a business, as I have done, and were unable to carry forward any money—particularly capex, with all the implications that that would have—you would have to do a lot of work just to manage that kind of limitation. That is what I am trying to explore. Is that the case? Have you just got used to the fact that you will have to manage things around that limitation and will expend effort and incur expenditure in doing so?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Budget Scrutiny 2022-23

Meeting date: 1 February 2022

Michelle Thomson

The cabinet secretary will be pleased to know that, coming last, I have only a few questions because it has been such a comprehensive session.

We have talked a lot about outcome. Of course, everybody is focused on outcome and efficient and effective spend of public money. To go back to your points about the carry forward, do the limits on carry forward ultimately lead to less effective use of public money? We are talking about the complexities of a budget process, and I am trying to sum up why we should care about that, if we are focused on efficient and effective use of public money. If you agree that the limits lead to less effective use of public money, it would be useful to have some examples of where that has affected decision making—particularly in capital expenditure.