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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 27 August 2025
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Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 20 April 2022

Michelle Thomson

Phil, do you have anything to add in response to the original question?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 20 April 2022

Michelle Thomson

I will move that on in my last question. With commercial properties, traditionally, somebody would have taken on the whole building, which would often be sublet for SMEs or microbusinesses. The model that you mention is similar, but for artisans. As you suggest, the return on investment is not as clear cut, which might rule out some of the bigger private guys.

Can we see something like that working to repurpose buildings? I appreciate that there is a lot of complexity around funding, if there is a public-private initiative, for example. Are there any final comments on that? Perhaps Anthea Coulter or Gemma Cruickshank would like to come in.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 20 April 2022

Michelle Thomson

I noticed in our documentation that you have consulted your members. Are you able to provide any insights off the back of that that would help to answer my question?

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 20 April 2022

Michelle Thomson

I do not know whether you all heard the earlier session, but I was exploring the multitude of ways in which culture, leisure activities and tourism can support the recovery of town centres. In particular, I am interested in the creative ways of doing that rather than the passive ways, which I described as putting a proposition in a box and into a former retail unit. That is still intrinsically passive, and I see the cultural element in particular as a main contributor to vibrancy.

I know that we have a lot to get through, but I would like to know whether there are any creative ideas that could translate into policy initiatives for the Government rather than for other agencies? I have to pick somebody to answer, so I will go with Danny.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 30 March 2022

Michelle Thomson

Good morning, Professor Sparks, and thank you for your contributions so far. It has been a very interesting session.

You said earlier that international comparisons are useful. First, I would like to get some more thoughts from you on what parallels you see elsewhere with what the Scottish Government is able to do, given that there are limitations here on the availability of fiscal levers.

Secondly, what differences do you see in how change is undertaken? You have touched on some of the challenges that we have here, such as local engagement and so on, but I am interested in your knowledge of what has happened elsewhere in those two key areas.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Town Centres and Retail

Meeting date: 30 March 2022

Michelle Thomson

All the way through this session, you have highlighted the complexity of the situation and, in your opening remarks, you said that we have spent 50 years getting into this position.

The challenge for all committees is to make a difference. I accept that it will take time to make a difference, given the lack of engagement and experience that you highlight, but how long will it take us to do something fairly radical? What expectations should we be setting?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Framework for Tax

Meeting date: 22 March 2022

Michelle Thomson

Good morning, minister. I have a couple of short questions. When I read through the framework for tax, I asked myself what word jumped into my head to describe how I felt about it, and it was probably “unobjectionable”. It does what it says on the tin—the Scottish tin, as Liz Smith said.

To pick up on a comment from the deputy convener, at an overarching level, what specific and measurable difference will the framework make? There is little to object to in it, and there is clarification. The deputy convener asked about a more detailed level but, in general terms, how will you know that it has been a success?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Framework for Tax

Meeting date: 22 March 2022

Michelle Thomson

I can see how the principles, with the two additions, provide the possibility of such a discussion.

Addressing tax avoidance is close to my heart, and you are correct to point it out. House of Commons research on tax avoidance from the last quarter of last year shows that the figure involved is £35 billion a year. We do not know what that equates to in Scottish terms, but that is obviously a huge concern.

Alex Doig may well need to answer this. What is the structure in the Scottish Government—rather than local authorities or whatever—to ensure that there is a focus on tax avoidance? How many full-time-equivalent staff do you have to look at the issue? Does a department head up that work? What management accountability is there? I would appreciate a bit more information about how that functions in the Government, given the importance of the issue.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Framework for Tax

Meeting date: 22 March 2022

Michelle Thomson

Yes. I am trying to determine the link between regarding the principle as important and translating that into real spend or accountabilities in relation to Revenue Scotland and so on. How does that flow through? It strikes me that there is a possibility that we might be saying something nice but not necessarily translating it into real resource or a real focus. I am trying to get more of a sense of that.

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Framework for Tax

Meeting date: 22 March 2022

Michelle Thomson

In terms of policy change or devising new policies, as you set out, what underpinning further detail do you have? Have you gone as far as developing policies to support people?