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  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 26 August 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Michelle Thomson

I go back to your point about the immediacy of the crises from which we are lurching. We have had several: we have had Brexit and Covid and we have a cost of living crisis. In addition, there are the up-front costs, which you clearly pointed out, before we get the benefits—if they are financial benefits. Does that work to inhibit structural change? Does short-termism always win the day, or is the possibility that it wins the day increased?

Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Michelle Thomson

Good afternoon. Thank you for coming along today.

I will ask the Auditor General a question first. In your submission, you said that the resource spending review

“notes that there are ... 129 public bodies in Scotland”.

You quite coyly comment that

“structural reform ... can take time to achieve and generate short-term costs.”

I also note your point about service delivery and outcomes.

With regard to the typical time-cost quality of any change, you have not given any indication of the potential for cost savings. From an audit perspective, how does our having 129 public bodies compare with the situation in other countries? I realise that this is a difficult question, and I accept what you said earlier, but, by head of population or some other appropriate measure, do we have far too many public bodies, and should we have fewer?

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Finance and Public Administration Committee

Public Finances 2023-24 (Impact of Cost of Living and Public Service Reform)

Meeting date: 20 September 2022

Michelle Thomson

My last question is on net zero targets, which the Auditor General and Susan Murray both mentioned. We know that they are already very difficult to achieve. We anticipate a fiscal event from the UK Government, which, if reports are correct, could roll back some of the commitments to net zero. Where is the tipping point for how that will increase the challenge for the Scottish Government, which has a clear target to achieve net zero?

Susan, in your submission you mention the Acorn carbon capture and storage project—and nearly everybody I have spoken to was utterly gobsmacked that that did not come to Scotland. I am trying to flesh out what could happen that would make you really concerned about Scotland’s job becoming much harder.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Registers of Scotland

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Michelle Thomson

So it is not actually your customers who have said this. You used the term “customers”, but it is a committee of the Law Society that has suggested that approach rather than the customers at the end of the chain.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Registers of Scotland

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Michelle Thomson

But surely some customers will not know that there is a problem with cases going back to 2017 until it is uncovered, by which time it will be too late.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Registers of Scotland

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Michelle Thomson

I think the convener is going to come in here—

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Registers of Scotland

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Michelle Thomson

I am sorry—it is not a supplementary question. It is on something entirely different, and it is a quick question for the end.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Registers of Scotland

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Michelle Thomson

My question is a supplementary one to that question. Land register completion by local authorities is quite variable. There are some very high completion rates for some local authorities; incredibly, others have a rate below 50 per cent, and some have zero per cent. I want to understand what influence, if any, you have over that completion by local authorities and why there is such disparity in those figures, regardless of whether you separate that from the land register or unlocking sasines.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Registers of Scotland

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Michelle Thomson

Do you have an active plan for the next wave of how to engage with local authorities, given the disparity in the figures? I appreciate that the local authorities have been affected by Covid and are restarting a lot of their operations.

Economy and Fair Work Committee

Registers of Scotland

Meeting date: 7 September 2022

Michelle Thomson

You have said that you spoke to your customers, but what specific feedback did you get from those who still had outstanding cases from 2017? Did they say that they wanted the cases that had been lodged more recently to be dealt with first? Did you break it down in that way?