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Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 1 November 2023
Michelle Thomson
If I understand correctly, those costings are still to be added; we do not have them yet. Do we have any sense of what further uplift that will create in the costings, or will we not know that until you have done the work on it?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 1 November 2023
Michelle Thomson
Yes. I am referring to the salaried chairs and paid volunteers that are triggered by the recommendations. Do we not have a cost for those?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 1 November 2023
Michelle Thomson
Would those changes be implemented under the finances of the Promise bill rather than through anything that is associated with the bill that we are discussing?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 1 November 2023
Michelle Thomson
Okay. I have one further comment. I noted what the minister said about her engagement thus far and during the summer recess, but I feel that it was significant that, after the committee’s evidence session last week, Victim Support Scotland tweeted to say:
“Rather than having a transformational impact on children’s experiences of the criminal justice system, the Bill as it currently stands could potentially fail both children who harm and children who have been harmed.”
I draw your attention to that tweet because it suggests that there is further work to be done to put Victim Support Scotland at ease.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 25 October 2023
Michelle Thomson
Dr Scott, you were obviously joking when you said that you would take a red pen to the bill, but what I hear from what you have described—I do not want to put words in your mouth—is that you are perhaps concerned that, in talking about what amendments are possible, there is a risk that they might be too superficial.
I am new to the committee, but, given what I have heard, it is almost as though consideration of the rights of victims has been completely removed from the process. Does the bill need to be completely turned on its head so that it has a rapier-like focus on victims throughout? That would be a much more substantive change than some potentially gentle amendments at stage 2. I would like you to flesh out your statement about a red pen a bit more.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 25 October 2023
Michelle Thomson
It is.
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 25 October 2023
Michelle Thomson
I have a quick supplementary question. As a member of the Finance and Public Administration Committee, I am, probably unsurprisingly, incredibly struck by the increase in cost of 42 per cent from the original financial memorandum. That obviously leads me to consider confidence going forward, particularly in relation to the unknown unknowns. I also have questions about confidence in the known things as more detail emerges.
If you had to put a number on it—where zero means you have no confidence and 10 means you have absolute confidence—how confident are you that the remaining process will flush out the unknown unknowns and that the financial provisioning can then be put in place?
My wee worry, based on previous experience, is that the bill will become more embedded—which will happen as it goes through the stages—but by that point we will have run out of money and we will have to squeeze it in to processes in your organisations.
10:00I am trying to flesh that out a wee bit and hear about your level of confidence, because 42 per cent is a startling increase—it really is unbelievable. I am not necessarily asking you all to comment, but do comment if you have any reflections about confidence. In other words, is enough money going to be available?
Education, Children and Young People Committee
Meeting date: 25 October 2023
Michelle Thomson
Jillian Gibson, I see you nodding. Do you want to come in?
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 24 October 2023
Michelle Thomson
I will come on to that. My question is for either Kirsty McGuire or Jim Jack. Where is the range or number of ranges that are so vast by quantum that you think that they are almost worse than useless? You have put a lot of information on the table today, but I am trying to establish where the ranges are so vast that you think, “Well, this now becomes largely meaningless.”
Finance and Public Administration Committee
Meeting date: 24 October 2023
Michelle Thomson
No, no—I am not looking for anything in particular. I am just trying to get a measure on the table. You can choose between four and five. It is not a trick question.