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The Official Report is a written record of public meetings of the Parliament and committees.  

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Dates of parliamentary sessions
  1. Session 1: 12 May 1999 to 31 March 2003
  2. Session 2: 7 May 2003 to 2 April 2007
  3. Session 3: 9 May 2007 to 22 March 2011
  4. Session 4: 11 May 2011 to 23 March 2016
  5. Session 5: 12 May 2016 to 5 May 2021
  6. Current session: 12 May 2021 to 17 June 2025
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Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Michelle Thomson

That is helpful.

The main gist of what I want to ask, which will probably not come as a surprise to you, is about your annual report on diversity and inclusion. I do not want to sound a little rude but, to be honest, it read to me as saying that you were definitely going to do something at some point but that that point is undetermined in terms of specific dates or saying that you are going to take action X by this date. It would be useful if you could walk me through your plans.

I appreciate that there are constraints; I appreciate the environment and economics and so on. However, let us start from board level and take it down. My particular concern is about giving representation to 51 per cent of the population, whose voices we simply do not hear.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Michelle Thomson

Good morning, and thanks for joining us. I will follow on from the convener’s commentary about the challenge of building and sustaining MSPs’ knowledge of—and the critical importance of understanding—where money is coming from, where it is going and the wriggle room therein.

Given your slight underspend on staff costs, have you ever thought about consulting with a public affairs company? I appreciate that, as a public body, you probably do not want to be in the business of paying a very expensive company on an on-going basis, but it might be possible to get one to set up an initial strategy that you could then run with. I appreciate the complex challenge of messaging.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Michelle Thomson

I have one last wee question on a different area before I hand back to the convener.

I know that it is always hard to get a picture of risk assessment with annual reports, because they represent a fixed point in time, but I did not really get a sense of the dynamic flow of the probability of a risk occurring and I found it hard to grasp. I do not know whether you have thought about how you would represent that. I appreciate that what is in the report is fixed, but there is nothing on the probability of such an occurrence.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Michelle Thomson

I think that we all agree about that concern. I was thinking about the creative and adaptive ideas that a public affairs company might be able to come up with, which we, collectively, have not thought of yet. If it were me, I would think that it might be worth having a chat with them. They will try to sell you chapter and verse, which you will obviously resist, but you might get some hot tips in the meantime.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Michelle Thomson

I would like to hear a wee bit more about that, but I suppose that I would have liked to have seen a much clearer recognition of that in the annual report itself, with at least something more about the specific actions that you might take. It read to me as though you were just saying, “Yeah, this is a problem and we’re definitely going to do something at some point.”

My understanding is that you can look to widen things out beyond economics, and that will clearly have a benefit with regard to cognitive diversity, which is the other side issue of having all men in these positions. Can you give us a bit more of a flavour of what you are thinking? Having cognitive diversity on boards or via your commissioners will be a good thing anyway, regardless.

Finance and Public Administration Committee [Draft]

Scottish Fiscal Commission

Meeting date: 1 April 2025

Michelle Thomson

That is very helpful. Thank you. It would be helpful to include in your report a sentence that sets out the fact that you have static representation but a very dynamic process. You have basically answered my question regarding what I wanted to hear.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Michelle Thomson

I suspect that we could talk about this for quite a long time, as it is a massive topic. However, one area that you have not given me quite enough information on yet is how you support industry to understand the juggernaut that is coming down the track.

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Michelle Thomson

Good morning. Thank you very much for attending. I have found the discussion very interesting.

One area that we have not touched on is the unknown unknowns for employers. Looking at artificial intelligence and its impact on a whole range of sectors—virtually everything—we have seen clear evidence of unknown unknowns with the green transition, which we have touched on a wee bit. I would like your reflections on how you are taking account of unknown unknowns, using AI as an example. How on earth do you help support people in industry when they also do not know what they do not know—in other words, when they do not know what they need?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Michelle Thomson

Do you mean how they do business?

Economy and Fair Work Committee [Draft]

Skills Delivery

Meeting date: 26 March 2025

Michelle Thomson

That brings us to the end of the evidence session. I thank the witnesses very much for their evidence.

12:13 Meeting continued in private until 12:34.